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Numbr2intheWorld
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02-22-2009, 12:05 AM
Post subject: 10/20 FR against non-reg
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Basically just check my line./ guys running like 20/0 over 10 hands.
I'm looking for comments on my play on all streets!
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $20.00 BB (8 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
Hero (Button) ($2047)
SB ($950)
BB ($2274)
UTG ($1937)
UTG+1 ($2625)
MP1 ($1742.15)
MP2 ($2000.75)
CO ($2904)
Preflop: Hero is Button with K , A
UTG calls $20, 4 folds, Hero bets $80, 2 folds, UTG raises to $220, Hero calls $140
Flop: ($470) 10 , 4, Q (2 players)
UTG bets $240, Hero calls $240
Turn: ($950) 6 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks
River: ($950) 8 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $1000
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thizzSantaCruz
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I like it but I don't think you have to bet the river so big. I don't think we are going to get him to fold any big pairs that he limp reraises with to fold. A bet of 600 will fold out his middle pairs, and its a cheaper bluff.
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Flopping quads and boats like its my job
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Renton
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what are you trying to make him fold, JJ?
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Fnord
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You're not deep and he's probably retarded and doing this with god-knows what because you online punks keep iso-raising him with crap.
Ship pre-flop.
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Numbr2intheWorld
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Renton
what are you trying to make him fold, JJ?
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i thought i could get AA or KK to fold, am i crazy?
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pocketfours
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I fold this pre vs unknown utg limp-raise. That might be real bad idk?
His checks on the turn and river makes his hand look a lot like JJ/AK/garbage. I'd just check behind and hope to split some and even win some.
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Renton
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also, even though it seems super gross, im not sure whether i don't just fold the flop.
it isn't like your overs are even in great shape if you hit them.
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elipsesjeff
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I don't mind a flop fold either, and I'd probably fold preflop without a read. If he's only got 10 hands out there he's probably not THAT frustrated yet, especially since this is only his 3rd hand played and I doubt we've isolated him the other two times.
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Irisheyes
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I fold pre if I'm playing well.
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Renton
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i would call pre for sure
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thizzSantaCruz
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Yea no way I fold pf, question is weather I jam or play some postflop poker.
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Flopping quads and boats like its my job
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Deanglow
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I'd call pre and fold flop with no read
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IowaSkinsFan
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Yeah id call pre and fold flop. I think him folding AA/KK isnt that likely.
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nutsinho
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id probably fold preflop sometimes and then not bet river
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Toadstool
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I think jamming preflop is horrible. Calling good, use your position against guy who probably isn't that good at playing poker. If he is that bad then I don't think he will fold AA/KK all that much, but I think his range consists of mainly AK, based on his scared looking flop bet sizing. I reckon if he has got AA/KK (which I don't think makes up that high a % of his range) then he probably isn't folding them a much higher % of the time if you bet 500 than 1000, whereas he'll fold AK for both, and you're laying yourself much better odds.
I might even be tempted to bet ~200 here to get him off a likely split.
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IowaSkinsFan
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i meant call flop not fold, i just hate folding gutshots.
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pocketfours
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I don't get those who call pre and fold flop.
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Renton
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well im only calling pre because we have a good price with position. I think if he makes it like 60-80 more i would fold then. For only 140 pre i don't think we have to continue on this flop to justify pre.
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pocketfours
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Renton
well im only calling pre because we have a good price with position. I think if he makes it like 60-80 more i would fold then. For only 140 pre i don't think we have to continue on this flop to justify pre.
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Ok. This just seems like a very decent flop for AK and the price is good here as well. Limpers are often passive so I would expect to see two cards for this price a lot of the time, even against KK/AA. Add to that there's the small possibility we have the best hand here and our overs are sometimes good too.
By the way I would be happy to call pre with any pair or SC. Just give me anything but AKo, it's just a useless hand in this spot imo.
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Fnord
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Massimo
i thought i could get AA or KK to fold, am i crazy?
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Yes! If he's got AA/KK he thinks he tarped you.
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Genitruc
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he s probably not a thinking player so betting the turn (715ish?) seems good to me
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when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
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2ndline.4thstreet
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On the river bet - you're only getting called by better, and I REALLY don't see AA or KK folding here. Ever.
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sauce123
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i dont bet river
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I got more flava than fruitstripe gum
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