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zook
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12-17-2007, 07:37 PM
Post subject: 10/20 - flopped trips top kicker - passive line
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Villain is 19/14/3.9 over ~900 hands, mostly mined. He doubled up recently with KK all-in pre vs. AK. BB is a fish. Obviously I'm looking to balance value from worse queens with value from underpairs and bluffs... thoughts?
Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Holdem Ring game - Blinds: $10/$20 - 6 players - Converter
Stack sizes:
Hero: $2241
UTG+1: $5035.25
CO: $2000
Button: $1103.90
SB: $2240
BB: $1250.55
Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG with Q A
Hero raises to $60, UTG+1 calls, 3 folds, BB calls.
Flop: 7 Q Q ($190, 3 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $140, BB folds, Hero calls.
Turn: 4 ($470, 2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $340, Hero calls.
River: 5 ($1150, 2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $775, Hero raises to $1700
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Numbr2intheWorld
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you should bet betting this flop with air a good amount imo
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Toadstool
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I really don't like this - betting the flop puts air in your range and he will look you up lighter - a competent opponent will not put any more money in the pot without a really strong hand as he knows you aren't c/c the flop with air and there are no draws out there - the only thing I think you may accomplish by C/C rather than betting is if he has seen you make big laydowns and he thinking you have AA/KK/JJ.
In the event he has got QK/QJ then betting is a lot better as I would expect a raise on flop/turn and not sure if the river C/R is getting called by worse - He knows you would probably C/C AA/KK/similar strength hand so when you C/R the river he must know that you have at least QK here.
Btw what do you put him on here that he is betting 3 streets with? certainly not two pair as he must know you are not C/C 2 barrels with worse (I'm assuming if he has 2 pair it is 1010 and below)
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zook
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Originally Posted by Toadstool
Btw what do you put him on here that he is betting 3 streets with?
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A queen or a bluff. I agree that he's not betting the river with an underpair. Because this guy's AF was so high (as were frequencies by street) I thought I'd maximize my value from bluffs at the risk of losing value from worse queens. But in retrospect I don't think that's optimal.
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gabe
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if i were villian i would fold KQ here
just bet the flop, people dont fold pocket pairs there
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sauce123
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bet/bet/bet looks good
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I got more flava than fruitstripe gum
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jackvance
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I like this.. gotta let bluffy players bluff sometimes when you have a hand to call em with.
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sauce123
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Originally Posted by jackvance
I like this.. gotta let bluffy players bluff sometimes when you have a hand to call em with.
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rethink this
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I got more flava than fruitstripe gum
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