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Old 01-10-2007, 10:29 PM     Post subject: 10/20 Being stubborn with tens #1 (permalink)  
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Just thought i'd post this. I knew villain was a little bit of donkey other than that didnt know him that well.

PokerStars Game #7868207854: Hold'em No Limit ($10/$20) - 2007/01/10 - 18:14:41 (ET)
Table 'Tololo' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: __2cb__ ($2252.20 in chips)
Seat 2: tralaira ($2239.50 in chips)
Seat 3: ct112 ($2000 in chips)
Seat 4: schwindog ($513.50 in chips)
Seat 5: danjuluc ($1797.50 in chips)
Seat 6: Crazyhug ($370 in chips)
Seat 7: idoubleL ($2491 in chips)
Seat 8: n_tzzvicodin ($1085 in chips)
Seat 9: EvilEcstasy ($2417.40 in chips)
EvilEcstasy: posts small blind $10
__2cb__: posts big blind $20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to EvilEcstasy [T T]
tralaira: folds
ct112: folds
schwindog: raises $60 to $80
danjuluc: calls $80
Crazyhug: folds
idoubleL: folds
n_tzzvicodin: calls $80
EvilEcstasy: calls $70
__2cb__: calls $60
*** FLOP *** [8 8 4]
EvilEcstasy: checks
__2cb__: checks
schwindog: checks
danjuluc: bets $200
n_tzzvicodin: folds
EvilEcstasy: calls $200
__2cb__: folds
schwindog: folds
*** TURN *** [8 8 4] [3]
EvilEcstasy: checks
danjuluc: bets $300
EvilEcstasy: calls $300
*** RIVER *** [8 8 4 3] [9]
EvilEcstasy: checks
danjuluc: bets $1217.50 and is all-in
EvilEcstasy: calls $1217.50
*** SHOW DOWN ***
danjuluc: shows [Qc Ts] (a pair of Eights)
EvilEcstasy: shows [Tc Td] (two pair, Tens and Eights)
EvilEcstasy collected $3832 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $3835 | Rake $3
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Old 01-10-2007, 10:51 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Old 01-10-2007, 11:34 PM #3 (permalink)  
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Old 01-11-2007, 01:07 AM #4 (permalink)  
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 i like it, it looks like he has a boat or nothing to me.

Also, I would like to see a discussion on whether or not the most +EV play is to make it $514 (or maybe just 400, whatever, doesn't matter) to go preflop, because I would do this nearly every time in this spot.
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Old 01-11-2007, 02:03 PM #5 (permalink)  
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Wow, are they always that aggressive 3-barreling??
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Old 01-11-2007, 02:24 PM #6 (permalink)  
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If opp makes the river say $500 to go, how easy/hard of a call is it?
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If opp makes the river say $500 to go, how easy/hard of a call is it?

Yes. the river push is what makes me call this too, but what about the above? Do you then give credit of possibly an 8??
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Old 01-11-2007, 02:59 PM #8 (permalink)  
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 I think the only questionable spot is the turn, i would have probably pussed out and led it.

I don't think this is the most secure spot to be a hero out of position.
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Old 01-11-2007, 03:02 PM #9 (permalink)  
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i like it, it looks like he has a boat or nothing to me.

Also, I would like to see a discussion on whether or not the most +EV play is to make it $514 (or maybe just 400, whatever, doesn't matter) to go preflop, because I would do this nearly every time in this spot.
Having played a ton of full ring lately (and obviously understanding that 10/20 is more aggressive than 1/2), i can't see this being the greatest play. In fact, I can't see reraising TT to an early position raiser being a good play the vast majority of the time (assuming most full ringers are very tight raisers).
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Old 01-11-2007, 03:38 PM #10 (permalink)  
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Old 01-11-2007, 04:30 PM #11 (permalink)  
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Seems like a great spot to squeeze preflop.

The 3-barrel is not that bad because you really don't represent a strong hand (flushdraw or stubborn medium pair).
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Old 01-11-2007, 04:42 PM #12 (permalink)  
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i like it, it looks like he has a boat or nothing to me.

Also, I would like to see a discussion on whether or not the most +EV play is to make it $514 (or maybe just 400, whatever, doesn't matter) to go preflop, because I would do this nearly every time in this spot.
Having played a ton of full ring lately (and obviously understanding that 10/20 is more aggressive than 1/2), i can't see this being the greatest play. In fact, I can't see reraising TT to an early position raiser being a good play the vast majority of the time (assuming most full ringers are very tight raisers).
when the original raiser only has 25 bb i tend to like my equity on a squeeze with 88+, AK, AQs...
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 I'm interested in if 500 on the river is a fold.
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Old 02-01-2007, 08:38 PM #14 (permalink)  
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Old 02-09-2007, 05:06 PM #15 (permalink)  
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Looks OK if you know theyre capable of raising shite and 3barrelling... I had a similar hand but with 88 and played it the same:

88 oop vs bad lag
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