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Fnord
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12-22-2006, 08:56 PM
Post subject: ZOMG, I'm clearly beat
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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
UTG ($112.90)
MP ($165.65)
Button ($73.70)
SB ($116.25)
Fnord ($125.75)
Preflop: Fnord is BB with Q , A.
2 folds, Button calls $1, 1 fold, Fnord raises to $4, Button calls $3.
Flop: ($8.50) 8 , Q , T (2 players)
Fnord bets $6, Button raises to $12, Fnord raises to $24, Button raises to $69.7, Fnord calls $45.70.
Turn: ($147.90) 7 (2 players)
River: ($147.90) A (2 players)
Final Pot: $147.90
Results in white below:
Fnord has Qd Ad (two pair, aces and queens).
Button has 7h 9h (one pair, sevens).
Outcome: Fnord wins $147.90.
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Pelion
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explain.
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Hand Histories without reads
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gabe: Ive dropped almost 100k in the past 35 days.
bigspenda73: But how much did you win?
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DaNutsInYoEye
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Why such a small 3-bet if you're willing to play for stacks?
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TheXianti: (Triptanes) why are you not a thinking person?
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Fnord
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Originally Posted by DaNutsInYoEye
Why such a small 3-bet if you're willing to play for stacks?
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Setting up a turn bet that prices out draws and keeping him in the game if he's got a worse Queen.
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Pelion
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Originally Posted by DaNutsInYoEye
Why such a small 3-bet if you're willing to play for stacks?
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Setting up a turn bet that prices out draws and keeping him in the game if he's got a worse Queen. |
You plan to push turn if he just calls the flop minraise?
What did you see in his play that made you think you were good here? This HH needs some reasoning behind it to be valuble.
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gabe: Ive dropped almost 100k in the past 35 days.
bigspenda73: But how much did you win?
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Fnord
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You plan to push turn if he just calls the flop minraise?
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I didn't min-re-raise. Yes, I was going to shove most turn cards.
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Originally Posted by Pelion
This HH needs some reasoning behind it to be valuble.
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Yup
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Originally Posted by Pelion
What did you see in his play that made you think you were good here?
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I see a button that limped, folded to.
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swiggidy
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12-23-2006, 05:54 AM
Post subject: Re: ZOMG, I'm clearly beat
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Is this a 2nd level humor post?
1) I love em
2) If button typically calls and you're happy playing for stacks with TP against this villain is raising more a problem?
3) never in this situation
4) see my comment above
5)  [ ]    clearly you made the best play [/]
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Miffed22001
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how much did our button buy in for. Surely not 100bbs? 
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Pelion
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Originally Posted by Fnord
I didn't min-re-raise.
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Yea ok that still gets me. At first glance I always see a double as a minaise. Its not far off one though.
You really arent going to help me out with a read here are you 
Is this your average 40/20 50BB LAG whos got lucky a couple of hands before?
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gabe: Ive dropped almost 100k in the past 35 days.
bigspenda73: But how much did you win?
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12-23-2006, 05:22 PM
Post subject: Re: ZOMG, I'm clearly beat
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LoL @
People who raise more money pre-flop
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ppl who raise more than 4bb's or what? you like to confuse ppl don't you?
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Wikipedia is the best thing ever. Anyone in the world can write anything they want about any subject. So you know you are getting the best possible information.
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Um, don't post results? I'd like to hear your read on the villain.
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Some days it feels like I've been standing forever, waiting for the bank teller to return so I can cash in all these Sklansky Bucks.
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Originally Posted by KoRnholio
Um, don't post results? I'd like to hear your read on the villain. |
Um....this whole thread was a commentary on doing everything you're not supposed to do and winning. Goes to show there's more than one way to do everything.
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you play bad.
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Fnord
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Originally Posted by KoRnholio
Um, don't post results? I'd like to hear your read on the villain. |
Um....this whole thread was a commentary on doing everything you're not supposed to do and winning. Goes to show there's more than one way to do everything. |
Except it's not.
I like every move.
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Originally Posted by bigspenda73
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Originally Posted by KoRnholio
Um, don't post results? I'd like to hear your read on the villain. |
Um....this whole thread was a commentary on doing everything you're not supposed to do and winning. Goes to show there's more than one way to do everything. |
Except it's not.
I like every move. |
You did exactly the opposite of everything that is preached in these forums. I assumed you were trying to make a point....
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Fnord
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You did exactly the opposite of everything that is preached in these forums. I assumed you were trying to make a point....
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Yup, it's part of the answer to why people who play cookie cutter poker are bitching about downswings and long break-even swings right now despite playing a game where the fish should be drawing pretty much dead.
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Originally Posted by bigspenda73
You did exactly the opposite of everything that is preached in these forums. I assumed you were trying to make a point....
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Yup, it's part of the answer to why people who play cookie cutter poker are bitching about downswings and long break-even swings right now despite playing a game where the fish should be drawing pretty much dead. |
So when you moving up to $200?
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You did exactly the opposite of everything that is preached in these forums. I assumed you were trying to make a point....
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Yup, it's part of the answer to why people who play cookie cutter poker are bitching about downswings and long break-even swings right now despite playing a game where the fish should be drawing pretty much dead. |
Similar reasoning why I play LAGG to start SNG's and TAGG to finish.
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Fnord
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So when you moving up to $200?
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Already where I send most of my action.
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Originally Posted by mixchange
Similar reasoning why I play LAGG to start SNG's and TAGG to finish.
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*shrug*, the adjustments we make to our opponents are vastly more important than the adjustments we try to get them to make.
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Originally Posted by Fnord
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Originally Posted by bigspenda73
You did exactly the opposite of everything that is preached in these forums. I assumed you were trying to make a point....
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Yup, it's part of the answer to why people who play cookie cutter poker are bitching about downswings and long break-even swings right now despite playing a game where the fish should be drawing pretty much dead. |
could you explain a bit more please?
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Wikipedia is the best thing ever. Anyone in the world can write anything they want about any subject. So you know you are getting the best possible information.
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mixchange
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he already did:
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the adjustments we make to our opponents are vastly more important than the adjustments we try to get them to make.
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he already did:
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the adjustments we make to our opponents are vastly more important than the adjustments we try to get them to make.
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its like zen poker over here
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-Beck
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its like zen poker over here
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If you come across Buddah on the road, KILL HIM!
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