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spino1i

07-14-2005, 05:31 AM Post subject: Your play? Tough one

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***** Hand History for Game 2360847899 *****
$200 NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, July 14, 01:32:25 EDT 2005
Table Table 48817 (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 2: dashah2 ( $308.05 )
Seat 3: Sister_Marge ( $84.55 )
Seat 4: EvilEcstasy_ ( $188 )
Seat 5: csoup9 ( $193.30 )
Seat 6: stego26 ( $187.40 )
Seat 10: hunhee88 ( $203.75 )
Seat 9: xxxONExxx ( $437.35 )
Seat 7: ggoodeno75 ( $220.25 )
Seat 1: dmcdmc1 ( $210.65 )
Seat 8: Acesdad9 ( $195 )
stego26 posts small blind [$1].
ggoodeno75 posts big blind [$2].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to EvilEcstasy_ [ Kd Ad ]
dmcdmc1 has left the table.
Acesdad9 folds.
xxxONExxx calls [$2].
hunhee88 folds.
dashah2 folds.
>You have options at Table 36734 Table!.
picar has joined the table.
>You have options at Table 48858 Table!.
EvilEcstasy_ raises [$8].
csoup9 folds.
stego26 folds.
ggoodeno75 calls [$6].
xxxONExxx calls [$6].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 6c, Js, Ac ]
ggoodeno75 checks.
xxxONExxx bets [$10].
EvilEcstasy_ raises [$25].
ggoodeno75 calls [$25].
>You have options at Table 48811 Table!.
xxxONExxx folds.
** Dealing Turn ** [ 5h ]
>You have options at Table 48811 Table!.
ggoodeno75 checks.
EvilEcstasy_ bets [$75].
ggoodeno75 is all-In [$187.25]
EvilEcstasy_ ????

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07-14-2005, 06:36 AM

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pot's pretty big... and you have barely any money left
just call and hope he doesn't have a set or two pair

IowaSkinsFan

07-14-2005, 02:36 PM

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It's so obvious at this point he has you beat, unless you've read him to bluff that you should just fold.

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07-14-2005, 02:52 PM

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Looks like he slowplayed a set, probably JJ.

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07-14-2005, 02:52 PM

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Tough lay down,
But chances are your against AA- AJ-or JJ here, so you got let it go unless you read otherwise.

DimitriT

07-14-2005, 02:55 PM

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I won't call that with just TPTK. He's got AJ or JJ.

spino1i

07-14-2005, 08:20 PM

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The rest of the hand:

EvilEcstasy_ folds.
ggoodeno75 shows [ Qc, 8c ] high card ace.
ggoodeno75 wins $344.25 from the main pot with high card ace.
Acesdad9 has left the table.

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lowBoy

07-15-2005, 12:39 AM

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Ouch.

Good fold though.

Fnord

07-15-2005, 12:40 AM

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Anyone else not like the flop raise? Why not $50 on the turn? Is this a hand you want to play for stacks with against this particular opponent?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBvge-c2_Xg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-Xz8aLuD7Y

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07-15-2005, 04:06 AM

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I dont think you want to be puting your whole stack in the pot with only TPTK, so I say check the turn, call a raise on the river. Once you raise the turn, hes only gonna call/reraise you with a beter hand (or what you belive to be a better hand) and force you to make what I belive was a correct fold.

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07-15-2005, 04:39 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Staple Gun

I hate that line because you're giving a free card to draws and are at the mercy of your opponent's river bet in a pot you built on the flop.

I prefer calling the flop, raising the turn then probably checking behind on the river.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBvge-c2_Xg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-Xz8aLuD7Y

twosevoff

07-15-2005, 01:44 PM

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$240 in the pot and $80 to you to call on the turn, so you're getting 3:1 which means you only have to have the best hand 1/4 of the time to make it +EV. That being said, it does look a lot like your beat by either AJ or a set here. What other hand besides a misplayed flush draw checks then calls a raise on the flop and then check-raises all-in on the turn? He put a great move on you here.

Drewbie

07-15-2005, 03:53 PM

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I agree.

You've got fold this.
He played that hand perfectly from his POV though.

Fnord

07-15-2005, 04:30 PM

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You silly no-limit folks and your folds

Seriously, I think this one was lost by putting us in this spot to begin with.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBvge-c2_Xg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-Xz8aLuD7Y

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07-15-2005, 06:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Fnord

You silly no-limit folks and your folds

Seriously, I think this one was lost by putting us in this spot to begin with.

depending on how the table has been responding to raises in the past (info we dont have yet)

when i first hit a table, 4x is going to be my initial default raise until i see im not getting enough isolation, or no callers at all and adjust my preflop raises accordingly.

from the looks of it, two callers, you might want to try a lil bit higher raise on this specific table/players.

you did put yourself in a tough spot by not protecting your hands strength on the flop.. you basically did a min reraise on the flop, i would kick it at least 3 to 5 times what the original bet is to show dominance in the hand, and now if home boy wants to come back over the top of you then its time to lay her down.

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