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Rabid Dog

04-05-2006, 03:38 PM Post subject: Your play here

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This guy was loose, and like just about everybody on the B2B network he really likes his Ace anything and will call to the showdown to make his draw.

Players(max 6):
suckmeout (EUR 52.35 in seat 1)
Lynten89 (EUR 114.96 in seat 2)
Geba123 (EUR 53.48 in seat 3)
Kenta031 (EUR 32.65 in seat 4)
KissmyAAs (EUR 50.35 in seat 5)
_rabiddog (EUR 42.55 in seat 6)

Dealer: Kenta031
Small Blind: KissmyAAs (0.25)
Big Blind: _rabiddog (0.50)

_rabiddog was dealt: Qc - Qh

suckmeout Fold
Lynten89 Fold
Geba123 Fold
Kenta031 Raise (1.80)
KissmyAAs Fold
_rabiddog Call (1.30)

Flop 8h - 6h - 3s

_rabiddog Bet (2.00)
Kenta031 Call (2.00)

Turn 8h - 6h - 3s - 5c

_rabiddog Bet (5.00)
Kenta031 All-In (28.85)

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dpe8598

04-05-2006, 03:48 PM

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A call here probably makes money in the long run. He may have a set or a straight, but you are getting around 1.4 to 1 on your money, so you only have to win this hand about 40% of the time to make a decent profit, and I think you easily do that.

Rabid Dog

04-05-2006, 04:05 PM

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My thinking is no way he has a 47 or 79 and comes in with a raise pre flop. I put him on an Ax, in which case I havent been able to bet these guys off preflop unless I come in with a 5 euro preflop raise pretty much.

finky

04-05-2006, 04:28 PM

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If he's a loose raiser I'd usually bump this up to 4-5E preflop.

As played I think I might find a fold here. If he wanted to push you off the pot with overs he would have probably done it on the flop. Raising the turn is a much stronger move and makes me think AA-KK.

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I put him on an Ax, in which case I havent been able to bet these guys off preflop unless I come in with a 5 euro preflop raise pretty much.

Why would you want to push out a dominated hand? Bet as much as they will call.

Rabid Dog

04-05-2006, 04:33 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by finky

Why would you want to push out a dominated hand? Bet as much as they will call.

Been loosing a whole lot of money doing this. As I said, they chase to the river and right now I'm in a string of them catching everything on that river card. Unless I misunderstand what you are saying.

sejje

04-05-2006, 04:34 PM

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I muck. I think he's got a bigger pair than you.

Renton

04-05-2006, 04:36 PM

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good players raise 97s on the button.

I think he has this at least 25% of the time.

finky

04-05-2006, 04:39 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rabid Dog

Quote:

Originally Posted by finky

Why would you want to push out a dominated hand? Bet as much as they will call.

If there chasing bad odds you win, don't let a bad run of hands alter what is statically a winning play.

bair

04-05-2006, 04:39 PM

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88 or 97

Rabid Dog

04-05-2006, 04:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sejje

I muck. I think he's got a bigger pair than you.

Im not going to dispute that. As tight as I am the women that play here probably have a bigger pair than me. But your probably talking about the hand though.

Rabid Dog

04-05-2006, 04:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Renton

good players raise 97s on the button.

I think he has this at least 25% of the time.

So your saying this guy is a good player, ok. I can live with that. I did however say in my opening statement that he was loose and would chase.

edit: Let me clarify why I say this. During this same session I have JJ on another table. I limp in, maybe not the best thing to do but I was in EMP and wanted to rep a weak hand. Although JJ is certainly not the nuts. Anyhow the everyone besides me had folded to the BB who comes in with a $2 raise ($=euro). I call. Flop comes 789 offsuit. I figure my chances of him having JT are slim since I had 2 of the J's in my hand and its a 6 max game. Also dont figure on him raising $2 with a 56. He checks and I bet $5 and he calls. Turn is a 5, so board looks like this 5789 rainbow. I bet $2 he calls. River is K. I check, he checks and shows 62o. Was he a good player? Maybe, but I doubt it, he was most likely just a chaser who didnt think my $5 bet was enough to put him off his draw. Just my bad luck here.

Rabid Dog

04-05-2006, 04:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by finky

If there chasing bad odds you win, don't let a bad run of hands alter what is statically a winning play.

Gotcha, been trying not to. I'm still continuing to bet when I feel I am ahead or have the hand. Just hoping it turns back in my favor soon.

Rabid Dog

04-05-2006, 06:58 PM

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Ok, here is the whole hand. I had him read right, he was chasing while trying to bet me off the hand. It was just my bad luck that I lost this hand. Is this a bad beat, Yes. But I was wanting to know if I played it right and how others would read this hand.

Game # 297060846 - Texas Hold'em No Limit EUR 0.25/0.50 - Table "Nora"

Players(max 6):
suckmeout (EUR 52.35 in seat 1)
Lynten89 (EUR 114.96 in seat 2)
Geba123 (EUR 53.48 in seat 3)
Kenta031 (EUR 32.65 in seat 4)
KissmyAAs (EUR 50.35 in seat 5)
_rabiddog (EUR 42.55 in seat 6)

Dealer: Kenta031
Small Blind: KissmyAAs (0.25)
Big Blind: _rabiddog (0.50)

_rabiddog was dealt: Qc - Qh

suckmeout Fold
Lynten89 Fold
Geba123 Fold
Kenta031 Raise (1.80)
KissmyAAs Fold
_rabiddog Call (1.30)

Flop 8h - 6h - 3s

_rabiddog Bet (2.00)
Kenta031 Call (2.00)

Turn 8h - 6h - 3s - 5c

_rabiddog Bet (5.00)
Kenta031 All-In (28.85)
_rabiddog Call (23.85)

River 8h - 6h - 3s - 5c - 5h

_rabiddog shows: Qc - Qh (two pairs, queens and fives)
Kenta031 shows: Kh - Ah (a flush, ace high)

Kenta031 wins: EUR 62.55 (with a flush, ace high)
Rake: EUR 2.65

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