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Old 06-10-2005, 11:34 PM     Post subject: You like this position play? #1 (permalink)  
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This was a small pot, but I think I played it well and used my position to win the pot. Reads were not too sharp since I was multitabling at the moment. His continuation bet on the flop screamed weakness, but I didn't want to reraise because I've seen some players pull that kind of bet w/ a monster like KK. So by smooth calling, and hoping the other player would fold, I would make my decision on the turn of whether he actually had a hand or if I could steal the pot right there. If he bets harder, he probably has a hand and puts me on a flush draw and I will have to fold, but if he checks, the pot is mine.

PokerStars Game #1872796324: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2005/06/10 - 19:22:55 (ET)
Table 'Piazzia' Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: ff3207 ($27.70 in chips)
Seat 2: BMS34 ($35.60 in chips)
Seat 3: bigker ($10.85 in chips)
Seat 4: xanthin ($87.25 in chips)
Seat 5: dtrivett ($43.05 in chips)
Seat 7: 4POPS ($22.45 in chips)
Seat 8: bdawg56kg ($55.15 in chips)
Seat 9: gooseeggs ($17.80 in chips)
BMS34: posts small blind $0.25
bigker: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to bdawg56kg [Qs Ah]
xanthin: folds
dtrivett: folds
4POPS: raises $1.50 to $2
bdawg56kg: calls $2
gooseeggs: folds
ff3207: calls $2
BMS34: folds
bigker: folds
*** FLOP *** [2d 3c Kc]
4POPS: bets $2
bdawg56kg: calls $2
ff3207: folds
*** TURN *** [2d 3c Kc] [3s]
4POPS: checks
bdawg56kg: bets $4.50
4POPS: folds
bdawg56kg collected $10.25 from pot
bdawg56kg: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $10.75 | Rake $0.50
Board [2d 3c Kc 3s]
Seat 1: ff3207 (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 2: BMS34 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: bigker (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: xanthin folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: dtrivett folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: 4POPS folded on the Turn
Seat 8: bdawg56kg collected ($10.25)
Seat 9: gooseeggs folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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Old 06-11-2005, 12:18 AM #2 (permalink)  
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i like it alot.
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Old 06-11-2005, 04:49 AM #3 (permalink)  
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I like it more than Gab3z0r.
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Old 06-11-2005, 06:43 PM #4 (permalink)  
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I HATE when people play this way against me (smooth call my continuation bet and make a big raise on my turn bet when I'm out of position) -- therefore I think it's a really good play. Only thing -- what if he reraises you allin? Next time making the same play against this guy or other aware players at the table, you better have the goods.

One question -- what if he bets 5 instead of super-weak 2 on the turn? Make the same play? If I'm firing a double-barreled bluff, I always bet more on the turn (usually 1/2 to 3/4 of the pot), depending on reads of course.
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Old 06-13-2005, 05:22 AM #5 (permalink)  
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Hehe I've been using this play more and more and it seems to work really well.

PokerStars Game #1889116898: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2005/06/13 - 01:07:11 (ET)
Table 'Peraga' Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: bdawg56kg ($47 in chips)
Seat 2: Gregrrr ($36.75 in chips)
Seat 3: gertie ($20 in chips)
Seat 4: Dol02 ($31.45 in chips)
Seat 5: Papyno ($22.45 in chips)
Seat 7: Slickh8er ($87 in chips)
Seat 8: Kryptonitely ($50.10 in chips)
Seat 9: Yellow Brick ($14.70 in chips)
Gregrrr: posts small blind $0.25
gertie: posts big blind $0.50
kcorb94: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to bdawg56kg [2d 2h]
Dol02: folds
Papyno: folds
Slickh8er: folds
Kryptonitely: folds
Yellow Brick: folds
bdawg56kg: calls $0.50
Gregrrr: raises $1.50 to $2
gertie: calls $1.50
bdawg56kg: calls $1.50
*** FLOP *** [Jd 7s 5h]
Gregrrr: bets $3
gertie: folds
bdawg56kg: calls $3
*** TURN *** [Jd 7s 5h] [Js]
Gregrrr: checks
bdawg56kg: bets $5
Gregrrr: folds
bdawg56kg collected $11.45 from pot
bdawg56kg: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $12 | Rake $0.55
Board [Jd 7s 5h Js]
Seat 1: bdawg56kg (button) collected ($11.45)
Seat 2: Gregrrr (small blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 3: gertie (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 4: Dol02 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Papyno folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Slickh8er folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Kryptonitely folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Yellow Brick folded before Flop (didn't bet)

The key to this play I think is sensing weakness in the opponents post flop continuation bet (and position is a must). For this hand, it played out perfectly because I was actually repping the jack on the turn. My $5 bet into an $11 pot screamed for a call. If villian was a tight player, I could've easily got him to lay down an overpair here.

And in reply to your post, face, if villian shows any sign of strength on the turn I will fold automatically. Basically using this play is a cheaper way of getting a read on an opponent. Instead of reraising on the flop which would typically cost you about 3x-4x the continuation bet, you can smooth call, and bet the turn w/ a more solid read and greater chance of taking the pot down.
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Old 06-13-2005, 01:24 PM #6 (permalink)  
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It's a very standard play.

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