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Old 02-09-2006, 02:08 PM     Post subject: Yet another KK hand from UTG... #1 (permalink)  
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Pot control or bet it hard?

Recent posts made by Fnord made me thinking "is it ALWAYS appropriate to bet hard every street?"

I have :Kc: :Ks:

I open raise 4BB and get single caller.

Flop: - Hands that beat me are AA, 22 and 6x. I pwn lower overpairs and have them on 2 outs, I have 4 outer to 22 and 2-outer to 6x.

I check. He checks it back.

Turn:

Good card, now I can stack other lower pocker pairs and 22 can kiss my butt.

I pot it, he pushes and I call.

River:


Results in white:
He flips over his pocket deuces for counterfeited underfull and MHIG.
"How could I call that bet? How could you MAKE that bet? It's poker not solitaire. " - that Gus Bronson guy
 
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Old 02-09-2006, 02:40 PM #2 (permalink)  
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What about all your Ax hands, esp. diamonds that call you preflop? You're just asking them to beat you. I'd be much less worried about trip 6s here than a flush draw, so I bet out to give my opps wrong odds. Yea, I might be missing value later, but when an A, a 2, or a diamond falls, I don't know how good my KK is. So...bet the flop!
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Old 02-09-2006, 03:33 PM #3 (permalink)  
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Wow he flopped you broke, you caught a perfect turn.
 
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Old 02-09-2006, 03:44 PM #4 (permalink)  
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Yep, diamond draws are more of a concearn here then 22 or 6x. Must bet flop to protect.
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Bet flop and try and get it all in from the turn onwards.
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Old 02-09-2006, 07:31 PM #6 (permalink)  
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Originally Posted by AHiltz
Yep, diamond draws are more of a concearn here then 22 or 6x. Must bet flop to protect.
Ok, I won't say anyting more...

just that HH:

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Hand #200816518 at table: Table TH 32
Started: Thu Feb 09 21:13:05 2006

Partisan is at seat 1 with 24.42
joesph is at seat 2 with 100.53
blizgamer is at seat 3 with 30.39
Dom79 is at seat 4 with 12.05
pwbunz929 is at seat 5 with 17.11
_Vrax_ is at seat 6 with 80.50
agore is at seat 7 with 83.95
Doli is at seat 8 with 47.95
PayHere$ is at seat 9 with 50.40
Dempsey99 is at seat 10 with 48.60

joesph posts the large blind 0.50
Partisan posts the small blind 0.25

Partisan: --, --
joesph: --, --
blizgamer: --, --
Dom79: --, --
pwbunz929: --, --
_Vrax_: :As:, :Ac:
agore: --, --
Doli: --, --
PayHere$: --, --
Dempsey99: --, --

Pre-flop:

blizgamer: Fold
Dom79: Fold
pwbunz929: Call 0.50
_Vrax_: Raise 2.50
agore: Fold
Doli: Fold
PayHere$: Fold
Dempsey99: Fold
Partisan: Call 2.50
joesph: Call 2.50
pwbunz929: Fold

Flop (Board: , , ):

Partisan: Check
joesph: Check
_Vrax_: Bet 6.00
Partisan: Fold
joesph: Call 6.00

Turn (Board: , , , :Qh:

joesph: Check
_Vrax_: Bet 12.00
joesph: Call 12.00

River (Board: , , , :Qh:, :Kc:

joesph: Check
_Vrax_: Check

Showdown:

joesph shows: , (a pair of Fives)
_Vrax_ shows: :As:, :Ac: (two pair, Aces and Fives)

Mainpot:
_Vrax_ wins the pot of 41.80 with two pair, Aces and Fives


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Old 02-09-2006, 07:40 PM #7 (permalink)  
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 Very dangarous play but it paid off.
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Old 02-09-2006, 08:40 PM #8 (permalink)  
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I kind of like it. Especially with the check behind on the river, you win money more times than you lose I believe. If I get raised, I dump the AA, but if I get cold calls, I'll bet it down and take a showdown for free on the river anytime.
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Old 02-09-2006, 09:19 PM     Post subject: Re: Yet another KK hand from UTG... #9 (permalink)  
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I like your play here, I play it the same sometimes.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vrax
Recent posts made by Fnord made me thinking "is it ALWAYS appropriate to bet hard every street?"
For what it's worth, I dropped nearly 1k in a night of playing 100NL 6 max. Granted some of it was just running god-aweful-horrible.

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You caught a perfect turn.
4 outer, *yawn*
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBvge-c2_Xg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-Xz8aLuD7Y
 
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