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Yay!...one of my firs non-fishy plays!

  
 
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BobbySalami
Old 06-23-2005, 10:17 PM     Post subject: Yay!...one of my firs non-fishy plays! #1 (permalink)  
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Not too long ago, I would ALWAYS make this call.....I was pretty proud of myself, sorry to boast and brag. Mostly a Thank you to FTR.


Dealer: Hand #138892199
Dealer: flopthese has 5 seconds left to act
Dealer: flopthese posts the small blind of $0.05
Dealer: vron posts the big blind of $0.10
Dealer: You have been dealt [Ac Jc]
Dealer: zagiace calls $0.10
Dealer: whoson1 calls $0.10
Dealer: GONZOSMC folds
Dealer: Lucky7z stands up
Dealer: Smokedogs folds
Dealer: Lucky7z folds
Dealer: BobbySalami raises to $0.40
Dealer: robbiez folds
Dealer: NY Scott sits down
Dealer: flopthese folds
Dealer: vron calls $0.40
Dealer: zagiace folds
Dealer: NY Scott adds $4
Dealer: whoson1 calls $0.40
Dealer: The flop is [Td 5h Js]
Dealer: vron checks
Dealer: NY Scott is feeling happy
Dealer: whoson1 bets $0.80
Dealer: BobbySalami raises to $2
Dealer: vron calls $2
Dealer: whoson1 raises to $5.85, and is all in
Dealer: BobbySalami folds
Dealer: vron calls $3.85
Dealer: vron shows [Kc Qc]
Dealer: whoson1 shows [Th 5d]
Dealer: The turn is [Kh]
Dealer: The river is [2h]
Dealer: vron shows a pair of Kings
Dealer: whoson1 shows two pair, Tens and Fives
Dealer: whoson1 wins the pot ($15.85) with two pair, Tens and Fives
Dealer: vron stands up
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Old 06-24-2005, 12:54 AM #2 (permalink)  
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I'm curious as to why exactly you folded. Now, I'm not seeing any stack sizes so I don't know if maybe vron is almost ai, but it's only $3.85 to see the turn and with your TPTK and a drawing board I'd be thinking I'm ahead most of the time. The pot has about $12 in it and will soon have $15 ($18 if you call). Not sure if I'd lay this down for $4 with how people play hands like MPGK and OESDs at low stakes. You saved yourself some cash here but I'm not sure it's the best move.

Maybe I'm the fish and this is a leak in my game, I'm interested in what others here have to say.
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Old 06-24-2005, 01:37 AM #3 (permalink)  
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It wasn't fishy of you to fold, but it WAS weak of you. At these limits you gotta call this everytime, most of the time you have these other fish beat.

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Old 06-24-2005, 01:46 AM #4 (permalink)  
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Darn, and I was sitting there all proud of myself....lol.

Geuss I was too weak.

I dont know....I just thought I was beat to a set. At the time I was thinking my only chance of winning was hitting runner runner.......

Maybe this is terribly weak thinking giving my opponents too much credit.

About stack sizes, how do the stack size of the other guy affect how I play this hand?
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Old 06-24-2005, 01:34 PM #5 (permalink)  
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 The stack size comes in because if you and vron had, say, 20 more in your stacks after you called the 3.85, you have to assume you're going to have to pay a lot more to get to the river and folding starts to sound better. But if vron has like 5-6 bucks total (before he calls the 3.85) you're getting such great pot odds you probably have to stay around.

On the play itself, I dunno, never played the micro limits... higher levels you have to think TPTK is no good here.
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Old 06-24-2005, 02:33 PM #6 (permalink)  
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Did you have a good read on the plr?

A reraise to allin looks very strong so you gotta wonder
what he's trying to protect. He called the PFR so I might
put him on a small set at this point.

Good lay down. I don't think its weak. It's TA.
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Old 06-24-2005, 09:37 PM #7 (permalink)  
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Well, my read at the time was the he was a fairly solid player.....didnt see him get his money in the pot with mediocre hands.....he later said T5 was a sentimental hand of his for some reason or another that he always plays........

Not sure whether to believe that or if he is a complete fish.........so while the hand was being played I thought he was solid, now...not so sure.

Also, I was the big stack at the table having 2.5 Buy-ins......I know that vron wasnt very close to being AI as he was sitting at about a buy-in before the hand began.

I am still unsure if this was the right play at these stakes in the long run......but I also think it was good to develop the discipling to laydown TPTK for when I can advance in stakes.
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