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Old 09-23-2004, 02:35 PM     Post subject: WTF? #1 (permalink)  
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I'm still new to NL holdem. Looking for comments on this hand. The guy that reraised me couldn't even beat a pair of 7's? QJ, WTF? Should I have just tried to limp in? I'm guessing the small raise was dumb.

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PokerStars Game #713634064: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) -
2004/09/23 - 10:28:30 (ET)
Table 'Aurora' Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: biggman ($13.45 in chips)
Seat 2: Rockfly ($10.45 in chips)
Seat 3: NascarFan6 ($19.10 in chips)
Seat 4: The Boss4656 ($10 in chips)
Seat 5: borleh ($18.40 in chips)
Seat 6: soberc ($5 in chips)
Seat 7: thakilla ($7.35 in chips)
Seat 8: Les_'worm' ($41.85 in chips)
soberc: posts small blind $0.10
thakilla: posts big blind $0.25
cojones1: sits out
The Boss4656: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Les_'worm' [8c As]
Les_'worm': raises $0.25 to $0.50
biggman: folds
Rockfly: raises $0.25 to $0.75
NascarFan6: folds
The Boss4656: calls $0.50
borleh: folds
soberc: folds
thakilla: raises $6.60 to $7.35 and is all-in
Les_'worm': folds
Rockfly: calls $6.60
The Boss4656: folds
*** FLOP *** [8h 3c Ad]
*** TURN *** [8h 3c Ad] [6c]
*** RIVER *** [8h 3c Ad 6c] [Ts]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
thakilla: shows [7h 7s] (a pair of Sevens)
Rockfly: mucks hand
thakilla collected $15.25 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $16.05 | Rake $0.80
Board [8h 3c Ad 6c Ts]
Seat 1: biggman folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Rockfly mucked [Jd Qs] - high card Ace
Seat 3: NascarFan6 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: The Boss4656 folded before Flop
Seat 5: borleh (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: soberc (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: thakilla (big blind) showed [7h 7s] and won ($15.25) with a
pair of Sevens
Seat 8: Les_'worm' folded before Flop
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Old 09-23-2004, 02:46 PM #2 (permalink)  
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First thing: Minimum raise = bad. It's weak and is not going to represent any strength by you nor is it going to make anyone fold. I would be folding Arag offsuit UTG. Although at those lower blinds I do find myself loosening up on my starting hands so I may have tried to limp.

Secondly, I think it was a terrible call by Rockfly with QJo. He may have thought that thakilla was just trying to buy one being that he was pretty short-stacked so he thought he would gambe and it didn't work out.
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Old 09-23-2004, 03:22 PM #3 (permalink)  
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After getting a read on some of the players NL is becoming great fun. I absolutly OWN kgmac. He was getting upset with me. LOL

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PokerStars Game #713673719: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) -
2004/09/23 - 11:08:26 (ET)
Table 'Aurora' Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: MisterZimbu ($13.30 in chips)
Seat 2: RBSurfer ($24 in chips)
Seat 3: kgmac ($29.10 in chips)
Seat 4: The Boss4656 ($17 in chips)
Seat 5: borleh ($17.10 in chips)
Seat 6: Manahan ($20 in chips)
Seat 7: thakilla ($13.45 in chips)
Seat 8: Les_'worm' ($38.70 in chips)
Seat 9: cojones1 ($16.20 in chips)
MisterZimbu: posts small blind $0.10
thakilla said, "yeah"
RBSurfer: posts big blind $0.25
Manahan: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Les_'worm' [9d 7d]
kgmac: raises $0.75 to $1
The Boss4656: calls $1
borleh: folds
Manahan: calls $0.75
thakilla: folds
Les_'worm': raises $2 to $3
cojones1: folds
MisterZimbu: folds
yeager70 [observer] said, "thanks"
RBSurfer: folds
thakilla said, "sending 30"
kgmac: calls $2
The Boss4656: folds
thakilla said, "call me and let me know when you hear from that guy"
Manahan: calls $2
*** FLOP *** [Th 5d Ks]
thakilla said, "do you want more than 30?"
kgmac: bets $1
Manahan: calls $1
Les_'worm': raises $4 to $5
yeager70 [observer] said, "no"
kgmac said, "A A ?"
yeager70 [observer] said, "30 is fine"
kgmac: folds
Manahan: folds
thakilla said, "k"
Les_'worm' collected $12.75 from pot
Les_'worm': shows [9d 7d] (high card King)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $13.35 | Rake $0.60
Board [Th 5d Ks]
Seat 1: MisterZimbu (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: RBSurfer (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: kgmac folded on the Flop
Seat 4: The Boss4656 folded before Flop
Seat 5: borleh folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Manahan folded on the Flop
Seat 7: thakilla folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Les_'worm' collected ($12.75)
Seat 9: cojones1 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

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Old 09-23-2004, 03:45 PM #4 (permalink)  
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Man, the river saves! It was a one outer too because another guy said he folded a K.

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2004/09/23 - 11:34:00 (ET)
Table 'Aurora' Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: guyme25 ($14.20 in chips)
Seat 2: RBSurfer ($22.40 in chips)
Seat 3: dirty_tas ($24.15 in chips)
Seat 4: rcknrobin ($8.65 in chips)
Seat 5: borleh ($17.05 in chips)
Seat 6: hjplayer ($6.65 in chips)
Seat 7: thakilla ($16.40 in chips)
Seat 8: Les_'worm' ($46.90 in chips)
Seat 9: spider44 ($19.40 in chips)
rcknrobin: posts small blind $0.10
borleh: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Les_'worm' [Kc Kh]
hjplayer: folds
thakilla: folds
Les_'worm': raises $1 to $1.25
spider44: folds
guyme25: folds
RBSurfer: folds
dirty_tas: folds
rcknrobin: raises $7.40 to $8.65 and is all-in
borleh: folds
Les_'worm': calls $7.40
*** FLOP *** [Td Qh 5h]
*** TURN *** [Td Qh 5h] [7d]
*** RIVER *** [Td Qh 5h 7d] [Kd]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
rcknrobin: shows [Qc Qs] (three of a kind, Queens)
Les_'worm': shows [Kc Kh] (three of a kind, Kings)
Les_'worm' collected $16.70 from pot
rcknrobin said, "omg"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $17.55 | Rake $0.85
Board [Td Qh 5h 7d Kd]
Seat 1: guyme25 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: RBSurfer folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: dirty_tas (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: rcknrobin (small blind) showed [Qc Qs] and lost with three of a
kind, Queens
Seat 5: borleh (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: hjplayer folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: thakilla folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Les_'worm' showed [Kc Kh] and won ($16.70) with three of a
kind, Kings
Seat 9: spider44 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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Old 09-23-2004, 07:26 PM #5 (permalink)  
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Worm you LAgg

It's only a suck-out if you're behind when most of the money goes in....
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Old 09-23-2004, 09:22 PM #6 (permalink)  
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Fnord,

I know it wasn't a suckout but that doesn't change the fact that the river saves! Although I didn't know I was behind on the flop until the hand was over it still feels good to have my hand hold up.
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