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chewbaka

04-09-2006, 09:33 PM Post subject: Would you call King set here?

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Game #1403744772 - (blinds $0.05/$0.10) No Limit Texas Hold'em -
2006/04/09-03:34:46.5 (CST)
Table "Nerium (5 max)" (real money) -- Seat 4 is the button
Seat 1: poke1134 ($6.35 in chips)
Seat 2: T Diddly ($12.38 in chips)
Seat 3: chewbaka8 ($7.79 in chips)
Seat 4: Bulle62 ($9.65 in chips)
Seat 5: mikiesco ($5.85 in chips)
mikiesco: Post Small Blind ($0.05)
poke1134: Post Big Blind ($0.10)
Dealing...
Dealt to chewbaka8 [ K

]
Dealt to chewbaka8 [ Q

]
T Diddly: Raise ($0.20)
chewbaka8: Call ($0.20)
Bulle62 : Fold
mikiesco: Fold
poke1134: Call ($0.10)
*** FLOP *** : [ K

]
poke1134: Check
T Diddly: Check
chewbaka8: Bet ($0.30)
poke1134: Fold
T Diddly: Call ($0.30)
*** TURN *** : [ K

] [ K

]
T Diddly: Check
chewbaka8: Bet ($0.70)
T Diddly: Call ($0.70)
*** RIVER *** : [ K

] [ T

]
T Diddly: Bet ($2)
chewbaka8: ???????

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DaHorror

04-09-2006, 09:54 PM

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At 5 max (depending on reads) I think I would reraise. If he donk-raised Aces so be it. If he 2-outered you with TT, tough luck. Obviously KT is a possibility as well but...

There's no question that you at least call.

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04-09-2006, 10:36 PM

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It sure looks like he has AA or AK to me. I'd probably make the crying call anyway though, because I suck. Re-raising would be horrible, what could he have that he'd call you with and that you beat? Maybe KJ and that's it.

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04-10-2006, 12:30 AM

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No one has thought of QJ... lol.

Bet full pot on flop, and 3/4 on turn.

As played, I call the river. Never re-raise here.

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04-10-2006, 03:11 AM

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without a read it's almost a fold...but not quite

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04-10-2006, 10:00 AM

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Put more money into the pot faster on earlier streets.

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04-11-2006, 04:02 PM

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VILLAIN IS A DONK!

Here's what happened next

chewbaka8: Raise ($4)
T Diddly: Raise ($9.18)
chewbaka8: Call All-in ($2.59)
*** SUMMARY ***
Pot: $15.08 | Rake: $0.75
Board: [ Kc 5h Ah Ks Ts ]
poke1134 lost $0.20 (folded)
T Diddly bet $12.38, collected $19.67, net +$7.29 (showed hand) [ Ac Ad ] (a
full house, aces full of kings)
chewbaka8 lost $7.79 (showed hand) [ Kh Qh ] (three of a kind, kings)

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chewbaka

04-11-2006, 04:04 PM

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Put more money into the pot faster on earlier streets.

I can't, I only have 2nd pair good kicker on the flop. On the turn, Yes, i was slow playing the trips. Thought villain only had TP all along.

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04-11-2006, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by chewbaka

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Put more money into the pot faster on earlier streets.

I can't, I only have 2nd pair good kicker plus the nut flush draw on the flop. On the turn, Yes, i was slow playing the trips. Thought villain only had TP all along.

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04-11-2006, 04:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by chewbaka

How does that make him a donk? He got your whole stack.

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04-11-2006, 05:30 PM

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There is no evidence here that villain is a donk. There were only 5 people at the table and we don't know what has been happening, so I can't say that his mimimum raise was bad (maybe that is all that will get called).

After that he slow played the trips. Hmm, not something I like to do, but he was against only one other player and again, we don't know what has been happening at the table.

Honestly, heads up this is a hand you are going to lose a ton of money on, period. You had a great draw and picked up a great turn card, what are you going to do.

mcatdog

04-11-2006, 05:50 PM

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The villain wasn't the donk in this hand. You were so excited about having three kings that you didn't think carefully about what your opponent might have had. That's a great way to lose a buy-in. Hopefully you learned your lesson and won't raise the river the next time this situation arises.

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04-11-2006, 05:58 PM

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also note that trips and a set are two different hands.

A SET is a really really good hand, usually a lock. A TRIPS is a fairly strong hand that loses its stack to a SET.

A set is when you have a pocket pair and make three of a kind with it. What makes a set so good is that if the cards to come cause the board to pair in any way, then you have just made quads or a full house. This is the reason why top pair, top kicker is usually drawing almost dead to any set.

A trips is when two cards of the same rank as one of your UNPAIRED hole cards makes three of a kind. This is a good hand, but it isn't even close to a set.

chewbaka

04-11-2006, 06:18 PM

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Thanks for the insights. Lessons noted.. off to the next table!

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04-12-2006, 06:33 PM

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You crying call here you dont raise.

Im likely to fold here sometimes to a play who I have seen play decent poker.

Sometimes its good to throw in a strange raise and vary from the norm it worked for him here. If you had hit your nut flush I think you would have stacked him though.

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