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Anosmic

08-16-2006, 10:18 AM Post subject: Worth a try?

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Opp seems fairly TAG.
Made a good lay-down to my monster earlier when I check-raised quads on the river.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

saw flop|saw showdown

Button ($10.20)
SB ($7.26)
BB ($12.80)
UTG ($10.80)
UTG+1 ($17.42)
MP1 ($1.85)
MP2 ($12)
Hero ($9.80)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K

, Q

. SB posts a blind of $0.05.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.10, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.10, Button calls $0.10, SB (poster) raises to $0.15, BB calls $0.10, UTG+1 calls $0.10, Hero calls $0.10, Button calls $0.10.

Flop: ($1) Q

, 8

, J

(5 players)
SB bets $0.3, BB folds, UTG+1 folds, Hero raises to $0.9, Button calls $0.90, SB calls $0.60.

Turn: ($3.70) A

(3 players)
SB bets $0.5
Hero raises to $5.66 and is all-in

Sorry. Hand converter didn't like this one..

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takesix

08-16-2006, 02:30 PM Post subject: Re: Worth a try?

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3 suited, 3 broadway when SB has shown he has interest and pushing on the turn when button is still to act? Ehhhhh.....

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08-16-2006, 02:45 PM

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Weak raise on the flop. You gave him perfect odds for the flush.

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08-16-2006, 03:38 PM

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I don't like this multi-way. Pulling out is usually better than blowing your load when you don't want the girl to have your baby.

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08-16-2006, 03:56 PM

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Raise pre-flop. Make flop raise bigger, to $1.30 at least. As played, fold the turn.

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08-16-2006, 04:21 PM

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Nice all in on the turn! SAWEET

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08-16-2006, 06:11 PM

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Pre-Flop: Raise to $0.50

As played Flop: Your re-raise needs to be bigger for it to have any effect. Make it $1.5.

As played Turn: Fold, or if you must voluntatrily put money in the pot just call and try to showdown cheap cause you are behind here. I don't even think a ten is going to help you. Did you completely forget about the button? There's no way you are winning in this hand and no way you are going to get both opponents to fold.

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08-16-2006, 08:19 PM

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don't push that turn ever again

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Anosmic

08-17-2006, 09:20 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Khabbi

Don't like to raise KQo. Wouldn't normally call a raise, but here it felt okay.

Yeah, re-raises are tricky. I'm not sure what's a good size. I plumped for 3x the bet, I should perhaps have made a psr.

I just read uncertainty from sb. He's got something, but he's frightend of both the straight and flush I think.
The button didn't figure into my thoughts as I was sure he would fold to the re-raise. But would SB belive me?

I think SB believed me because he spent a lot of time thinking (I know you can't read a lot into "thinking time" online).
Anyway he called: he had AA, neither clubs. A T does win the pot for me, so I have 10% chance if he calls.

He picked up a J on the river to complete the boat so it wouldn't matter if I'd had the clubs unless they were KT.

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Khabbi

08-17-2006, 01:03 PM

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This entire hand is blowing my mind... everyone played it "not standard". I'll keep it at that cause there's no one right way to play a hand, but you guys have some really "different" styles.

As for not raising in the CO, I don't really care what your cards are here KQo, 87s, 93s, I think I'm putting a raise in there with anything (well maybe only 25% with garbage but the cards mostly don't matter to me with this type of raise, it's all about position).

You have an early position limper. This means one of two things: he's got AA/KK and wants to re-raise or he has some marginal holding (nothing) and is hoping that someone in late position doesn't come around and raise the pot (this is where you raise the pot) so he can hit his miracle flop (see fish).

SB puts in a min-raise (which doesn't count as a raise, but it does give you info). This usually means he's getting tricky, cause it really doesn't accomplish anything else.

If you had raised, SB could put you on a hand and might try to re-raise you (although this guy seems amazingly passive so he might not) and you can easily drop your hand PF.

The rest of the hand would play out like I described above... with you folding the turn.

MikeJee

08-17-2006, 08:57 PM

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Yah, that turn push was bad news, not to mention KQ is frequently the 2nd best hand when you hit a King or Queen with this many players in the hand and a board that looks like that.

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