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spoonitnow
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12-23-2007, 04:30 PM
Post subject: Working on Multiple Street Bluffs
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I've got these hands on pokerhand.org because it's a lot easier for me to keep up with in my notes during my sessions. These are hands where I double or triple barreled with or without success. I'm having a bit of trouble in these spots, so I'm going to focus on them over the next few days and post some hands and whatnot and figure this thing out.
Edit: Added hand 6.
Hand 1: http://www.pokerhand.org/?1844871
Villain is unknown. I felt like he could be calling on the flop with a lot of mid/small PPs and I also picked up an ok flush draw on the turn.
Hand 2: http://www.pokerhand.org/?1844881
Villain is 36/13/1.4 with a flop AF of 0.3 and a turn AF of 4.0, so I figured he called a lot of flops with or without much. Also I'd seen this guy try to be tricky in a few really stupid spots and get pwned in the last 10 minutes or so.
Hand 3: http://www.pokerhand.org/?1844933
I typo-ed my raise on the turn, meant to raise it to 47 instead of 57. Although I hit the set I was going to raise his bet on the turn since I'd seen him call flop bets and lead turns for around 1/2 pot a half dozen times or so in the past 20 min.
Hand 4: http://www.pokerhand.org/?1844938
I put villain on a jack or flush draw, and XTR I think it was in chat also suggested other middle pairs. Villain thought for a long time before calling the turn and almost immediately checked the river. Villain is 40/11/2.5
Hand 5: http://www.pokerhand.org/?1844988
No stats on this villain. I planned to check through or call any non-spade river if the bet wasn't enough to turn me into a wuss.
Hand 6: http://www.pokerhand.org/?1845921
Villain is unknown, but has a middle PP or FD here a lot I think?
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
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spoonitnow
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Straight Flush
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Bumpy bump.
The hand I like my play in the most is 4, and the hand I like my play in the least is 2.
Thoughts?
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.
Rule # 1: don't ask questions
Rule # 2: don't ask questions
I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
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bikes
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a hot damn mess
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Hand 1, I find it really difficult to two barrel against an unknown, That really doesn't seem like a great card to two barrel with to me as the flush draw could well have hit him.
Hand 2, I really don't mind the play in hand 2, your raise preflop could mean you're repping a big pocket pair, unfortunately it looks like the guy hit a set or something and thinks you won't give up the big pocket pair. WAIT. If you think he is the idiot that he is and got completely owned a few hands earlier, Meh, I still find it difficult to call down with Ace high and you could very well be dominated.
Hand 3, I think a raise to maybe either 2.5x or 3x would be more appropriate here for extraction, he's obviously got an Ace and thinks its the best hand till you reraise him to 4x. Yes the board is very drawy but it's hard for me to put him on a draw when he takes the lead on the turn.
Hand 4 I really like this one, I think the flush draw is very very likely here.
Hand 5, wtf, the guy is calling on the river despite you showing strength every street and he misses his flush draw?
Hand 6 is very commonly a FD or middle pair even at the 25 NL I play at.
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Fnord
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Hand 1: I don't like this spot, the board is draw heavy and you would like the free card if behind. Meh, going check/check/scoop on the river is the only reason I might like a bet, but I don't think you're good often enough at FR.
Hand 2: Once again, I don't see what he's folding unless you shove the turn.
Hand 3: Standard
Hand 4: LoL, I should do this more often.
Hand 5: Need more information. Sick. I still don't like it.
Hand 6: Meh
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spoonitnow
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Originally Posted by Bbickes
Hand 5, wtf, the guy is calling on the river despite you showing strength every street and he misses his flush draw?
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Careful. I check/call the river on this one.
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.
Rule # 1: don't ask questions
Rule # 2: don't ask questions
I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
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