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KingLizard

06-18-2006, 02:45 AM Post subject: Without reads, this one was probably a bad decision

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Another situation where I had no reads on the villain. Would you give him credit for an 8x (prolly not with the PFR call) or high PP? Obviously 10 10 is not goot for me. I just "immediately" put him on a bluff for a flush draw.

Texas Hold'em $25NL (real money), 17 Jun 2006 4:28 PM ET

Seat 1: TCC40 ($5.25 in chips)
Seat 2: bn78 ($24.60 in chips)
Seat 3: Hero [

] ($18.80 in chips)
Seat 4: Villain ($37.50 in chips)
Seat 5: xT2Greenx ($25.05 in chips)
Seat 6: macjeffries ($43.90 in chips)
Seat 7: Aixer ($29.30 in chips)
Seat 8: texasskinny ($28.35 in chips)
Seat 9: sedici888 ($11.60 in chips)
Seat 10: ArkansasGeek ($35.25 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
xT2Greenx posts blind ($0.15), macjeffries posts blind ($0.25).

PRE-FLOP
Aixer folds, texasskinny folds, sedici888 folds, ArkansasGeek folds, TCC40 calls $0.25, bn78 folds, Hero bets $1.50, Villain calls $1.50, xT2Greenx folds, macjeffries folds, TCC40 folds.

FLOP [board cards

] pot ~ $3.65
Hero bets $3, Villain bets $7, Hero bets $14.30 and is all-in, Villain calls $10.30.

TURN [board cards

] pot ~ $38.25

RIVER [board cards

]

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DaHorror

06-18-2006, 04:11 AM

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Seems like most 'readless' players will just minraise a flush draw (and then call your allin anyway).
This guy slightly more than minraised - and he basically 'bet pot'.
I would be more likely to suspect TT/AT here and let it go.
If he had raised more or less, the push is probably best.

I may give up TPTK too easily against a player on whom I have no read...but I consider I lost $4.50 here instead of my whole stack, and was probably beat with an unknown chance to suckout.

I tend to auto-categorize a 'readless' player as loose/passive - so if they start giving action, they've probably got a real hand. I think even a loose/passive AQ/AJ just calls down here a lot of the time.

Of course, even a loose/passive with AQ of clubs will probably reraise here - but most times I think it's still just a minraise...anyone other $25 NL players with a feel for the general field's play may contradict and I would be interested. Certainly some sites may be more 'fishy' in this respect than others.

I do like that, since you made your decision, you went ahead and put the rest in on the flop - no reason to fool around with turn action given stack sizes.

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