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Old 09-07-2005, 09:19 AM     Post subject: Why you raise AK preflop, and bet your top pair #1 (permalink)  
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theres a thread in the strategies section today about passive preflop play, and why you should raise AK preflop.
this hand today highlighted the need for aggression with AK.

POKERSTARS GAME #2518365621: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.10/$0.25) - 2005/09/07 - 03:33:03 (ET)
Table 'Moultona' Seat #5 is the button
Seat 2: Scott Owen ($32.80 in chips)
Seat 4: Dashel ($17 in chips)
Seat 5: tarplbl ($42.90 in chips)
Seat 6: Tim Mckethan ($8.55 in chips)
Seat 8: SCXpunk ($36.95 in chips)
Tim Mckethan: posts small blind $0.10
SCXpunk: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Scott Owen [:Qc: :Th:]
Scott Owen: calls $0.25
i really shouldve raised or folded here.. but thats not the point of this post, so dont worry about that.
Dashel: folds
tarplbl: folds
Tim Mckethan: calls $0.15
SCXpunk: checks
*** FLOP *** [ :As: ]
Tim Mckethan: checks
SCXpunk: checks
Scott Owen: checks
*** TURN *** [ :As: ] [:Kc:]
Tim Mckethan: bets $0.25
SCXpunk: folds
Scott Owen: calls $0.25 (pot=$1)
not chasing the straight, just that i thought i could take it off him on the river if he checked, or bet weakly again.. maybe not wise for such a small pot?

*** RIVER *** [ :As: :Kc:] [:Jc:]
Tim Mckethan: bets $0.50
Scott Owen: raises $1 to $1.50
Tim Mckethan: raises $1 to $2.50
Scott Owen: raises $12.50 to $15
Tim Mckethan: calls $5.55 and is all-in
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Scott Owen: shows [Qc Th] (a straight, Ten to Ace)
Tim Mckethan: mucks hand
Scott Owen collected $16.50 from pot

*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $17.35 | Rake $0.85
Seat 2: Scott Owen showed [Qc Th] and won ($16.50) with a straight, Ten to Ace
Seat 6: Tim Mckethan (small blind) mucked [Ah Ks]
villain goes AI
i call with a set (i have him owned)
i win pot
villain: **** this, this site is bullshit, ******* rigged, suck out ****
 
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Old 09-07-2005, 02:22 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Aweful play by your opp. Not only did he fail to raise it preflop but he gave a free card to any flush draw and gave great implied odds to any straight or flush draws on the turn. These are precisely the kinds of opps you want to play against.
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Old 09-07-2005, 02:24 PM #3 (permalink)  
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yes, and then when i hit he pays his whole stack.. the perfect opponent
villain goes AI
i call with a set (i have him owned)
i win pot
villain: **** this, this site is bullshit, ******* rigged, suck out ****
 
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Old 09-07-2005, 03:00 PM #4 (permalink)  
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Ridiculous. Psychology gone bad. For some people, it's against their religion to bet when they catch a hard hand. The slow play impulse starts warming their heart.

Definately a classic example of someone erasing their read.

Slowplaying at the wrong time destroys your read when you need it most. Sometimes, you really need to know that a late street raise has you beat, and isn't a medium strength hand reacting to your show of weakness.

You really can't access the "what does my opponent think I think they have" type of stuff without a proper representation of your actual hand on certain dangerous boards.

He thought that you thought he was weak, therefore he thought there was a good chance you had a weaker two pair when you raised. He wasn't thinking.
It's not what's inside that counts. Have you seen what's inside?
Internal organs. And they're getting uglier by the minute.
 
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Old 09-07-2005, 05:12 PM     Post subject: Never slowplay AK #5 (permalink)  
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Never ever ever slowplay Big Slick.He breaks you enough when you do fastplay him;only time you can slowplay is if you flop trips or a boat.
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