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homeboy604
Old 10-25-2005, 03:26 AM     Post subject: why NOT to bluff at 100nl (and my favorite hand today) #1 (permalink)  
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when i play solid poker, i usually can make over 100 in a few hours. however, i give away a lot of money by bluffing. these two bluffs i dont think were that bad. opponents at this level will just refuse to lay down a pair sometimes.
NO more bluffing without STRONG reads and good reasons to do so.

in both these hands the villians had no reads on me other then i was a tight player, and no reason to think i was bluffing.

PokerStars Game #2885689632: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2005/10/24 - 21:45:51 (ET)
Table 'Podarkes' Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: bigwaterfish ($156.15 in chips)
Seat 2: empear ($100.25 in chips)
Seat 3: eddieboy7 ($88.50 in chips)
Seat 4: homeboy604 ($109.85 in chips)
Seat 5: pockett1 ($66.15 in chips)
Seat 6: benj1111 ($46 in chips)
Seat 7: theraven919 ($40.25 in chips)
Seat 9: WackMe ($103.35 in chips)
bigwaterfish: posts small blind $0.50
empear: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to homeboy604 [Tc Kc]
eddieboy7: calls $1
homeboy604: calls $1
pockett1: folds
benj1111: folds
theraven919: folds
WackMe: folds
bigwaterfish: calls $0.50
empear: checks
*** FLOP *** [6c Ah 3c]
bigwaterfish: checks
empear: checks
eddieboy7: bets $1
homeboy604: raises $3 to $4 overbet the flush draw
bigwaterfish: folds
empear: folds
eddieboy7: raises $6 to $10 why hes re raising me here i have no idea
homeboy604: calls $6
*** TURN *** [6c Ah 3c] [Qh]
eddieboy7: bets $6
homeboy604: calls $6
*** RIVER *** [6c Ah 3c Qh] [5d]
eddieboy7: checks
homeboy604: bets $14 he checks, i sense weakness and try and buy it. i was right but he still wouldnt lay it down with just the 9 kicker.
eddieboy7: calls $14
*** SHOW DOWN ***
homeboy604: shows [Tc Kc] (high card Ace)
eddieboy7: shows [9c Ac] (a pair of Aces)
eddieboy7 collected $61 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $64 | Rake $3
Board [6c Ah 3c Qh 5d]
Seat 1: bigwaterfish (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 2: empear (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: eddieboy7 showed [9c Ac] and won ($61) with a pair of Aces
Seat 4: homeboy604 showed [Tc Kc] and lost with high card Ace
Seat 5: pockett1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: benj1111 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: theraven919 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: WackMe (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
PokerStars Game #2886404571: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) -
2005/10/24 - 22:58:09 (ET)
Table 'Arosa' Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Yo4PreZdent ($202.95 in chips)
Seat 2: Long Drink ($55.30 in chips)
Seat 3: Master77 ($120.20 in chips)
Seat 4: RISKAVERSE ($98.25 in chips)
Seat 5: homeboy604 ($186.85 in chips)
Seat 6: tatebound ($45.95 in chips)
Seat 7: ferky ($30 in chips)
Seat 9: orangeT ($39.20 in chips)


PokerStars Game #2885625875: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2005/10/24 - 21:39:19 (ET)
Table 'Katja' Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Le_Iceman ($16.85 in chips)
Seat 2: ps_fedex ($157.05 in chips)
Seat 3: USMCBullDog ($99 in chips)
Seat 4: socprof ($142.50 in chips)
Seat 5: FirePup ($78.25 in chips)
Seat 6: itznin ($68.35 in chips)
Seat 7: Hamzen ($172.85 in chips)
Seat 8: homeboy604 ($94.80 in chips)
Seat 9: eddieboy7 ($98.50 in chips)
ps_fedex: posts small blind $0.50
USMCBullDog: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to homeboy604 [3c 3d]
socprof: raises $3 to $4
FirePup: folds
itznin: folds
Hamzen: folds
homeboy604: calls $4
eddieboy7: folds
Le_Iceman: folds
ps_fedex: folds
USMCBullDog: folds
*** FLOP *** [Th 2d Ad]
socprof: bets $4
homeboy604: raises $4 to $8 trying to push him off hand make him think i have set
socprof: calls $4
*** TURN *** [Th 2d Ad] [7h]
socprof: checks
homeboy604: bets $10
socprof: calls $10
*** RIVER *** [Th 2d Ad 7h] [8d]
socprof: checks
homeboy604: bets $17 i shouldnt have mad this bet again...however, the river card gave flush and straight possibilites. he got married to his pair tho.socprof: calls $17
*** SHOW DOWN ***
homeboy604: shows [3c 3d] (a pair of Threes)
socprof: shows [Ah Qc] (a pair of Aces)
socprof collected $76.50 from pot
homeboy604 said, "nh"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $79.50 | Rake $3
Board [Th 2d Ad 7h 8d]
Seat 1: Le_Iceman (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: ps_fedex (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: USMCBullDog (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: socprof showed [Ah Qc] and won ($76.50) with a pair of Aces
Seat 5: FirePup folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: itznin folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Hamzen folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: homeboy604 showed [3c 3d] and lost with a pair of Threes
Seat 9: eddieboy7 folded before Flop (didn't bet)


MY favorite hand of the day. i watched the big stack here put pressure on tonnes of pots where he shouldnt have. i stayed around to take a big pot off of him and i finally did it.
im really liking the catch your draw on the turn and just call then bet river move lately. more value i think.

RISKAVERSE: posts small blind $0.50
homeboy604: posts big blind $1
FirePup: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to homeboy604 [Ac Js]
tatebound: folds
ferky: calls $1
orangeT: folds
Yo4PreZdent: calls $1
Long Drink: folds
Master77: calls $1
RISKAVERSE: folds
homeboy604: checks
*** FLOP *** [7c Ks Qc]
homeboy604: checks
ferky: checks
Yo4PreZdent: bets $2
Master77: folds
homeboy604: calls $2
ferky: folds
*** TURN *** [7c Ks Qc] [Td]
homeboy604: checks
FirePup leaves the table
Yo4PreZdent: bets $4
turnsaces joins the table at seat #8
homeboy604: calls $4
*** RIVER *** [7c Ks Qc Td] [3h]
homeboy604: bets $8
Yo4PreZdent: raises $9 to $17
homeboy604: raises $22 to $39
Yo4PreZdent: calls $22
*** SHOW DOWN ***
homeboy604: shows [Ac Js] (a straight, Ten to Ace)
Yo4PreZdent: mucks hand
homeboy604 collected $91.50 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $94.50 | Rake $3
Board [7c Ks Qc Td 3h]
Seat 1: Yo4PreZdent mucked [Tc Kd]
Seat 2: Long Drink folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Master77 (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 4: RISKAVERSE (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: homeboy604 (big blind) showed [Ac Js] and won ($91.50) with a straight, Ten to Ace
Seat 6: tatebound folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: ferky folded on the Flop
Seat 9: orangeT folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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Greedo017
Old 10-25-2005, 03:47 AM #2 (permalink)  
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 hand 1: he has top pair and the nut flush draw. he reraised because his hand is massacring your hand. in addition, there's no reason for him to put you on a good hand because you didn't raise preflop. Your river "bluff" was 14 into a 35 pot, showing the strength of a 4 year old girl, his call wasn't bad.

Hand 2: bluffing doesn't involve minraising, or making less than half pot sized bets. he was right to call down these bets. bluffing is intended to scare your opponents away with how much you're willing to bet, not make tiny reasonable bets that are easy to call with a tpgk hand.

hand 3: fold the flop.
i betcha that i got something you ain't got, that's called courage, it don't come from no liquor bottle, it ain't scotch
 
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Old 10-25-2005, 03:47 AM #3 (permalink)  
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hand one he made a very good re-raise on you. I would make the same one, for this reason.. you limped behind him preflop when a better ace would have raised. He thought u had clubs and was correct. u already know it but that was a horrid river bluff. mightve gotten away with it if u had raised turn and then pushed all in on river or overbet nicely.

hand 2.. hardly anyone lays down to sets at that level, and its hard to even at higher levels. Never try and bluff a set. low pocket pairs just get you in to trouble unless you make a set or maybe open ended strait draw in an unraised pot or against a late position raiser.

hand 3.. well played i usually fold to gutshots but u also got payed off really nicely so it was a good call.
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Old 10-25-2005, 03:55 AM #4 (permalink)  
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^^^ yah i almost alwasys fold gutshots unless i have the odds, but i knew this guy was betting without much. i knew if i could hit i'd probably get paid off.
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Old 10-25-2005, 04:13 AM #5 (permalink)  
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 I donked off $50 once on a semi-bluff reraise ($50 includes the preflop betting) with KhKc on an AJ9 (all clubs) board against a guy who wouldn't lay down his A5o (no flush draw either) at 50 NL. I was sad.
Some days it feels like I've been standing forever, waiting for the bank teller to return so I can cash in all these Sklansky Bucks.
 
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Old 10-25-2005, 08:13 AM #6 (permalink)  
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 hand 3 calling isn't bad. you did get paid. i wouldn't do it unless the table was extremely loose though.
i betcha that i got something you ain't got, that's called courage, it don't come from no liquor bottle, it ain't scotch
 
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