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edudlive

09-10-2005, 06:28 AM Post subject: why can't all hands be like these

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PokerStars Game #2540836857: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2005/09/10 - 02:24:52 (ET)
Table 'Gianfar' Seat #4 is the button
Seat 2: edudlive ($18 in chips)
Seat 4: SomBuddy ($5 in chips)
Seat 6: royalsu ($9.70 in chips)
royalsu: posts small blind $0.05
edudlive: posts big blind $0.10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to edudlive [Jh 8h]
SomBuddy: raises $0.10 to $0.20
royalsu: folds
edudlive: calls $0.10
*** FLOP *** [7h 2s 4h]
edudlive: checks
SomBuddy: checks
*** TURN *** [7h 2s 4h] [9h]
edudlive: checks
SomBuddy: checks
*** RIVER *** [7h 2s 4h 9h] [Th]
edudlive: bets $0.70
SomBuddy: raises $4.10 to $4.80 and is all-in
edudlive: calls $4.10
*** SHOW DOWN ***
SomBuddy: shows [6d Ah] (a flush, Ace high)
edudlive: shows [Jh 8h] (a straight flush, Seven to Jack)
edudlive collected $9.55 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $10.05 | Rake $0.50
Board [7h 2s 4h 9h Th]
Seat 2: edudlive (big blind) showed [Jh 8h] and won ($9.55) with a straight flush, Seven to Jack
Seat 4: SomBuddy (button) showed [6d Ah] and lost with a flush, Ace high
Seat 6: royalsu (small blind) folded before Flop

PokerStars Game #2541023680: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2005/09/10 - 03:00:25 (ET)
Table 'Gianfar' Seat #5 is the button
Seat 2: edudlive ($27.90 in chips)
Seat 4: larry2003 ($2 in chips)
Seat 5: smacked ($11.60 in chips)
edudlive: posts small blind $0.05
cue_meanie leaves the table
larry2003: posts big blind $0.10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to edudlive [Ah 8h]
smacked: calls $0.10
edudlive: calls $0.05
larry2003: raises $0.10 to $0.20
smacked: calls $0.10
edudlive: calls $0.10
*** FLOP *** [Ad Qc 7c]
edudlive: bets $0.40
larry2003: raises $0.40 to $0.80
Viperzinc has returned
smacked: folds
edudlive: calls $0.40
*** TURN *** [Ad Qc 7c] [As]
edudlive: checks
larry2003: bets $0.50
edudlive: raises $0.50 to $1
larry2003: calls $0.50 and is all-in
*** RIVER *** [Ad Qc 7c As] [8c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
edudlive: shows [Ah 8h] (a full house, Aces full of Eights)
larry2003: mucks hand
edudlive collected $4 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $4.20 | Rake $0.20
Board [Ad Qc 7c As 8c]
Seat 2: edudlive (small blind) showed [Ah 8h] and won ($4) with a full house, Aces full of Eights
Seat 4: larry2003 (big blind) mucked [Qd 5h]
Seat 5: smacked (button) folded on the Flop

PokerStars Game #2541033861: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2005/09/10 - 03:02:23 (ET)
Table 'Gianfar' Seat #5 is the button
Seat 2: edudlive ($29.90 in chips)
Seat 5: smacked ($11.85 in chips)
Seat 6: Viperzinc ($5.55 in chips)
Viperzinc: posts small blind $0.05
edudlive: posts big blind $0.10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to edudlive [Qc Qh]
smacked: raises $0.40 to $0.50
Viperzinc: folds
edudlive: raises $0.40 to $0.90
smacked: calls $0.40
*** FLOP *** [7h Js 3h]
edudlive: bets $0.60
smacked: raises $0.60 to $1.20
edudlive: calls $0.60
*** TURN *** [7h Js 3h] [Kh]
edudlive: checks
smacked: bets $1
edudlive: calls $1
*** RIVER *** [7h Js 3h Kh] [9h]
edudlive: checks
smacked: bets $5.10
edudlive: calls $5.10
*** SHOW DOWN ***
smacked: shows [Jd Tc] (a pair of Jacks)
edudlive: shows [Qc Qh] (a flush, King high)
edudlive collected $15.65 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $16.45 | Rake $0.80
Board [7h Js 3h Kh 9h]
Seat 2: edudlive (big blind) showed [Qc Qh] and won ($15.65) with a flush, King high
Seat 5: smacked (button) showed [Jd Tc] and lost with a pair of Jacks
Seat 6: Viperzinc (small blind) folded before Flop

PokerStars Game #2541055554: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2005/09/10 - 03:06:35 (ET)
Table 'Gianfar' Seat #6 is the button
Seat 2: edudlive ($37.10 in chips)
Seat 6: Viperzinc ($10.90 in chips)
edudlive: posts small blind $0.05
Viperzinc: posts big blind $0.10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to edudlive [Ah Th]
smacked leaves the table
edudlive: raises $0.30 to $0.40
Viperzinc: calls $0.30
*** FLOP *** [2c 3c Qs]
edudlive: bets $0.50
Viperzinc: calls $0.50
*** TURN *** [2c 3c Qs] [3h]
edudlive: checks
Viperzinc: checks
*** RIVER *** [2c 3c Qs 3h] [As]
edudlive: bets $0.50
Viperzinc: raises $0.50 to $1
edudlive: calls $0.50
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Viperzinc: shows [Ts 8s] (a pair of Threes)
edudlive: shows [Ah Th] (two pair, Aces and Threes)
edudlive collected $3.65 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $3.80 | Rake $0.15
Board [2c 3c Qs 3h As]
Seat 2: edudlive (small blind) showed [Ah Th] and won ($3.65) with two pair, Aces and Threes
Seat 6: Viperzinc (button) (big blind) showed [Ts 8s] and lost with a pair of Threes

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lowBoy

09-10-2005, 04:36 PM

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1) Don't check a turn like that... you're lucky that he hit his nut flush AND you hit your straight flush. What happens if you didn't get your straight flush but a heart fell? Could you have called a bet from the opp?

edudlive

09-10-2005, 06:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lowBoy

Nope I wouldn't have called his bet, but also the chances of runner runner hearts are so low (1 in 25?) that I wasn't worried about it.

On a hand like this, I'd rather let him see the free card in a 30-40 cent pot (and get a smallish bet in on the river) than get a nice bet in and him draw me out to his nut flush. I know 30-40 cents adds up, but the guy was paying me off with his other marginal hands so I had no problems letting it go if any heart other than T fell (I wasn't trying to draw to the straight flush, I didn't even realize I had it until I really thought about it)

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lowBoy

09-10-2005, 06:57 PM

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Yes, the chances of runner-runner hearts are slim, but probability doesn't work like that... the turn and the river cards are independant events.

If you put him on a higher flush draw, there's no point in checking the turn unless he's the kind of person to bluff at the river. A heart hits, he's got you over a barrel and you lose your 20 cents. If a heart doesn't hit, you get nothing more out of him. The only card that would help you EV wise is that straight flush card.

You have a 1/46 chance of him getting a higher flush and you beating him, which means you're most likely taking his stack, which would mean that you need him to have something like a $8.50 stack in order for this to be a profitable move.

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