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kdawgy80
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02-07-2010, 06:28 PM
Post subject: when to move from 50nl fr to 100?
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3-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Dec 2009
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I'm not going to turn this into a statcheck thread I'm more interested in getting some opinions from ppl who have previously moved from 50 to 100... More along the lines of when/why did you?
I guess a little background on where I'm at would help. I've always had trouble moving up mainly because I think I have a hard time adjusting to the larger amount of money on the table and of course there's always an adjustment needed since different levels play differently.
Let's start back in December where I moved up to 50 successfully after being away from poker for a full month and never beating it consistently before. I had tried to move up to 50nl fr previously jumping straight up from 25 when my bankroll allowed it but always broken even for long stretches or worse, was negative. I guess the break allowed me to clear my head and forget about 25 as I jumped to 50 upon returning in December and ran at about 4.15 BB/100 over almost exactly 10k hands. I was ecstatic with this and was even more so when I didn't get cocky and blow it all back in January as I am prone to do. Ran 2.5ish over 14k hands in Jan. I know I didn't play as well partially due to stress from gf/work and partially I lost buyins on a few boneheaded allins. Nonetheless positive was a good result imo. Now in Feb I'm up 6 BIs over 2k hands a combo of running hot and playing well (yay no boneheaded shoves or playing cocky!). So I'm thinking that barring a horrible rest of Feb I'm going to move to 100 in march.
So my questions to you: what kind of a winrate at 50 should I work towards before moving up? What was yours at 50 before moving up? Any suggestions for someone who has trouble adjusting to more $ on the table? why did u move up when u did? And of course feel free to share your tales of moving up.
Fwiw I wrote this on my phone so I apologize for the inevitable errors in grammar and I play on UB which is def softer than PS/FT if that factors into your thoughts.
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Micro2Macro
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50-100k hands at 50nl
>2ptbb win rate would be ideal. if it's not, you need to be able to ask yourself why.
if you're having trouble adjusting to the money play shorter sessions (1-1.5hrs max) at the new stake.
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Jason
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I've pretty much always moved when I make 30 buy-ins from a level. Unless you're extremely lucky or skilled, that should definitely be a reasonable sample size of hands and even if it's not statistically enough hands to say for sure, just the fact that you made 30 buy-ins should mean enough. I just think it's very unlikely that a player will luck box their way to 30 buy-ins. But if you some how did, you can always move back down and try again once your shot fails.
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daven
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Straight Flush
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Originally Posted by Jason
I've pretty much always moved when I make 30 buy-ins from a level. Unless you're extremely lucky or skilled, that should definitely be a reasonable sample size of hands and even if it's not statistically enough hands to say for sure, just the fact that you made 30 buy-ins should mean enough. I just think it's very unlikely that a player will luck box their way to 30 buy-ins. But if you some how did, you can always move back down and try again once your shot fails.
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this is good advice - make 25-30 buyins at 50nl, then move up
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Icanhastreebet
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Full House
Join Date: Dec 2009
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the weekends imo
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eragotte
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Join Date: Feb 2009
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i dont think 30 buyins really means anything, move up when you're comfortable with the amount of money you will be losing in a downswing. look at your biggest downswing, i know ive had two 12 buyin swings at 50nl so no way i move up since a 1200 swing would be death for me. if you cant feel okay losing atleast 5 dont even consider it... other than that what i like to do is just filter 1-2 super juicy tables of a higher limit in with my normal ones and get used to it without having to face full variance
and now as a brag/showing that 30 buyins means nothing, here is my past 5 days at 50nl...
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BankItDrew
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25-30 BI at 50nl is sarcasm by daven. It should be closer to 35-40.
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