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RevolverX
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06-09-2006, 07:38 PM
Post subject: What's your read on the villain?
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Straight
Join Date: May 2006
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PokerStars Game #5201752806: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2006/06/09 - 15:31:12 (ET)
Table 'Urda II' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: coy2 ($10 in chips)
Seat 2: GREENY1184 ($10.55 in chips)
Seat 3: Hero ($9.90 in chips)
Seat 4: boneraddler ($2 in chips)
Seat 5: oMrXo ($22.45 in chips)
Seat 6: inecita2004 ($10.25 in chips)
Seat 7: RandyOakley ($7.65 in chips)
Seat 8: frbrdlvr ($4.30 in chips)
Seat 9: D B W ($1.70 in chips)
GREENY1184: posts small blind $0.05
Hero: posts big blind $0.10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Qs Qh]
boneraddler: calls $0.10
oMrXo: folds
inecita2004: calls $0.10
RandyOakley: folds
frbrdlvr: calls $0.10
D B W: folds
coy2: folds
GREENY1184: folds
RandyOakley leaves the table
Hero: raises $0.60 to $0.70
boneraddler: calls $0.60
inecita2004: calls $0.60
frbrdlvr: calls $0.60
*** FLOP *** [7c 8d Qc]
BlackScott joins the table at seat #7
Hero: bets $1.50
boneraddler: folds
inecita2004: calls $1.50
frbrdlvr: folds
*** TURN *** [7c 8d Qc] [Tc]
Hero: checks
inecita2004: bets $8.55 and is all-in
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Scary flop
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Miffed22001
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I suck at reading HH's :P
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cardsman1992
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Could you explain reasoning?
I think he's behind to a flush or str8 (suited As love to call raises on these tables, and I have seen J9 turn up before). Possibly a flush lower than A high that wants A clubs out of there.
Just want to see the thought process...I wouldn't want to pin my hopes on a FH redraw.
I personally think I lead that turn, then if you are raised you can lay down the hand a little easier.
Maybe I have become weak-tight postflop...
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theDEEPdish
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the flop wasn't scary at all the turn was the scar card you should have bet closer to the pot on the flop but this is a insta call, why would he push if he had the flush but its 10nl
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Miffed22001
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Straight Flush
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lol missed the flush completion.
To be honest, i cant see a flush playing this quick at 10nl, you know what they're like with flushes, they cold call then go betting rivers etc. However, its obviously a laydown i guess, but instinct says too fast for a flush which is why id be tempted to call. If you bet and got miniraised id def say flush. Ignore my earlier post
Having said that you built a $3 post flop pot, and you'd want to pot it with QQ or 2/3 pot it which mens your never folding the turn so i may just have gone ahead and pushed the flop, considering a flush draw or oesd probably chases anyway
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Bear Bones
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3-of-a-Kind
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At 10NL, you can't play your sets this slow with 4 people in the pot and a coordinated board with 2 clubs and a straight draw potential. Pot sized bet on the flop makes your decisions a lot easier.
You bet a half pot on the flop and checked a scary turn, if op is aware he puts you on Qx or a straight draw and bets big to push you off with any 2 cards. If he has 69 or 9J and filled the straight or hit the flush you have 9 outs to boat up. at almost 2:1 on your money and given the way you played this, I think you have to call this with top set.
Any reads on villain at all?
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yorib
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What does villian think that you have? I'd say AA/KK/AK with a remote outside chance of QQ. Villian likely puts you on an overpair. Villian also (if he's any good) sense tremendous weakness from you now. Strong raise, 1/2 pot bet (giving villian 3:1 odds) and then a check on a flush/draw board. The all-in is a great chance to push you off your hand.
Villian called then called a big raise after someone else called the raise before him. That means low pp or a drawing hand, maybe SC? If he has a SC it's more likely he has two pair or a pair+OESD than a flush. Hands like QTd would play the same way. If I had two pair, I'd figure I'd had you beat, and so would villian.
Regardless of what you should have done (bet a little more on the flop and another pot size bet on the turn) you must call.
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