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Old 10-06-2005, 11:27 PM     Post subject: Whats your line here? 1/2 NL #1 (permalink)  
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No read on opp other than he had some pocket pair below KK

Whats your play here and why?

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$200 NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, October 06, 19:22:35 EDT 2005
Table Table 55184 (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: Golf4Pro2007 ( $91.65 )
Seat 2: JesusLovesYu ( $196 )
Seat 3: cowhauler ( $184 )
Seat 4: fitz39 ( $256.90 )
Seat 5: sassygirl691 ( $133.75 )
Seat 7: freeput ( $165.45 )
Seat 8: USMC92 ( $207.20 )
Seat 9: Kingfish__ ( $198 )
Seat 10: pfkaok ( $200 )
Kingfish__ posts small blind [$1].
pfkaok posts big blind [$2].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Kingfish__ [ Ac Kc ]
Golf4Pro2007 folds.
JesusLovesYu folds.
cowhauler raises [$4].
fitz39 folds.
sassygirl691 calls [$4].
freeput folds.
USMC92 calls [$4].
Kingfish__ raises [$17].
pfkaok folds.
cowhauler calls [$14].
sassygirl691 folds.
USMC92 folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 7h, 2h, 3h ]
Kingfish__ checks.
cowhauler checks.
** Dealing Turn ** [ Th ]
Kingfish__ checks.
cowhauler bets [$10].
Kingfish__ ???
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Old 10-06-2005, 11:32 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Very weak bet by him, but you only have two choices:

1) raise HARD if you think he's trying to buy the pot and hope he folds
2) fold (I would do this)
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Old 10-06-2005, 11:34 PM #3 (permalink)  
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Very weak bet by him, but you only have two choices:

1) raise HARD if you think he's trying to buy the pot and hope he folds
2) fold (I would do this)
Yup those are the two choices, why do you think folding is better?
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Old 10-06-2005, 11:39 PM #4 (permalink)  
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Very weak bet by him, but you only have two choices:

1) raise HARD if you think he's trying to buy the pot and hope he folds
2) fold (I would do this)
Yup those are the two choices, why do you think folding is better?
You have ace high with no draw (if you had a heart it would be a no brainer at any level) so lets assume you throw out a $40 raise (make it $50 to go) and he calls...you would have wasted a considerable amount of money for only a decently sized pot.

Now, if you think you can make him fold, then by all means try..but playing a 4 card flush board without holding that suit is a very tough decision and I'd elect to let them have this pot and get my money in on a better hand
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Old 10-07-2005, 12:47 AM     Post subject: RESULTS #5 (permalink)  
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I figured that a weak pocket pair (so his heart cant be too big) with a heart would make a larger bet than that, hoping to get some value, if they had confidence in their hand. What the villain did was basically a probe bet to see where he stood. Once you realize this you then realize that he folds to a raise.

I raised to 40$ btw, not to 50$ at edud suggested (I think 50$ is a little overkill).

Kingfish__ raises [$40].
cowhauler folds.
Kingfish__ does not show cards.
Kingfish__ wins $93
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Old 10-07-2005, 12:49 AM #6 (permalink)  
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I'd be interested in seeing how + or - EV this move is at various stakes
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Old 10-07-2005, 06:51 AM #7 (permalink)  
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I'd be interested in seeing how + or - EV this move is at various stakes
At 200 NL and above I think its +EV, at 100 NL its break-even, and at 50 NL and below its -EV i think.
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Old 10-07-2005, 03:17 PM #8 (permalink)  
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I don't think he has a flush, but I think he has you beat. You can possibly push him off the hand. I would wait for a better spot.
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