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Symbolic
Old 12-28-2005, 05:01 AM     Post subject: Whats the next move? #1 (permalink)  

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Hand 1638613773, Started at 12/27/2005 5:27 PM
Table 'Damman': $0.50-$0.50 No Limit HE (Real Money)
Seat 0: Spike_Guy ($64.20 in chips)
Seat 1: menskist ($31.50 in chips)
Seat 2: calfirst33 ($35.80 in chips)
Seat 3: chuck11xx ($125.95 in chips)
Seat 4: Symbolic0 ($85.60 in chips)
Seat 5: KC xx ($59.70 in chips)
Seat 6: Scotty_12 ($48.30 in chips) (on the button)
Seat 7: lucky kidd ($19.45 in chips)
Seat 8: ZIA75 ($22.75 in chips)
Seat 9: maindefer ($45.25 in chips)
*** Blind Bet Round *** :
Dealt to Symbolic0: 9d
Dealt to Symbolic0: 9s
lucky kidd : Post Blind ($0.25)
ZIA75 : Post Blind ($0.50)
KC xx : Post Dead Blind ($0.25)
*** Pre-Flop *** :
maindefer : Fold
Spike_Guy : Fold
menskist : Call ($0.50)
calfirst33 : Fold
chuck11xx : Bet ($2)
Symbolic0 : Call ($2)
KC xx : Fold
Scotty_12 : Raise ($4.75)
lucky kidd : Fold
ZIA75 : Fold
menskist : Fold
chuck11xx : Call ($2.75)
Symbolic0 : Call ($2.75)
*** Flop *** : 8d 2s 5c
chuck11xx : Check
Symbolic0 : Check
Scotty_12 : Bet ($5)
chuck11xx : Call ($5)
Symbolic0 : ?

No reads on either. roughly $20 in pot.
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Old 12-28-2005, 05:07 AM #2 (permalink)  
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Fold, nothing good will come out of continuing with this hand, no reads, no button and a lot of money behind.

Consider the posibilities:
o You raise with the best hand and take down a medium pot.
o You push someone off AA-TT, bahahahaahaha, umm... yeah... right.
o AK/AQ calls and is still drawing very live against you.
o You fold the best hand against a lot of outs.
o You put a boatload of money into the pot with 2 outs.

Out of position, lost the initative, not a clue what these guys are representing with their action so far. Looks like reverse implied odds to me...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBvge-c2_Xg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-Xz8aLuD7Y
 
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Old 12-28-2005, 05:11 AM #3 (permalink)  

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No need for reverse implied odds, i ended up raising it $10 more to $15. I was confused by the weak bet and call. Anyway, first caller went all in for $30 more, and the second guy called, i quickly threw my hand in the muck.

First showed QQ, second showed KK.
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Old 12-28-2005, 05:15 AM #4 (permalink)  
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I lose $15 less on this hand.

The weak-re-raise pre-flop is almost always a big pair or AK unless you know he'll do this with a weaker holding. Throw in the 3rd guy and you're in really sad shape. Even if this was LHE, the muck would be looking really good...
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Old 12-28-2005, 02:26 PM #5 (permalink)  
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 You can find a fold for a LOT of reasons here. I may be the one to tell you to reraise on the flop and buy some info, here im recongising a big hand when i see one. Both big preflop and small on a low flop. Foldy foldy time!
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Old 12-28-2005, 03:31 PM #6 (permalink)  
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check/fold flop. Without preflop raise and reraise I'll flop bet into a preflop raiser here. In this case theres too much preflop action.
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