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Old 07-29-2005, 05:07 AM     Post subject: What's the call? #1 (permalink)  
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This is on party.
I had been at this table for 45 minutes or so, buying pots left and right with very little contest, I raised preflop about 20% of the hands.

$25 NL Texas Hold'em - Friday, July 29, 00:31:45 EDT 2005
Table Table 37100 (Real Money)
Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 2: denhigh ( $29 )
Seat 4: msacay ( $20.44 )
Seat 10: kyc605 ( $6.70 )
Seat 7: devylr ( $76.65 )
Seat 8: oandpgator ( $11.77 )
Seat 3: jamebond_777 ( $42.20 )
Seat 6: AcesKid22 ( $23.84 )
Seat 1: TLouVerTure ( $42.80 )
Seat 9: SMABUILDER ( $25.95 )
Seat 5: G_Nob ( $14.10 )
kyc605 posts small blind [$0.10].
denhigh posts big blind [$0.25].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to devylr [ Ad Kc ]
TLouVerTure has left the table.
jamebond_777 folds.
msacay folds.
G_Nob folds.
AcesKid22 folds.
devylr raises [$2].
oandpgator folds.
SMABUILDER raises [$5].
kyc605 folds.
denhigh folds.
devylr calls [$3].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 9h, 8c, 7s ]
devylr checks.
SMABUILDER bets [$5].
devylr calls [$5].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 6s ]
devylr checks.
SMABUILDER is all-In [$15.95]

the pot at this point is 36.30

SMABUILDER had been solid/tight for a while, but he stole a few pots on the last round, so he was loosening up (or agro-ing up!).

So what's the call?
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Old 07-29-2005, 05:16 AM #2 (permalink)  
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you can fold that flop.
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Old 07-29-2005, 05:26 AM #3 (permalink)  

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I'd probably fold. I put him on a pair of TT / JJ / QQ / KK / AA. If he was paying attention he might know you have been buying pots and has hit something and willing to test you out. I probably wouldn't have called the $5 bet either on the flop.

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Old 07-29-2005, 06:30 AM #4 (permalink)  
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What journey said.

You said you were aggressive for a lot of pots, picking them up here and there and everywhere. When I see someone who does this checking a flop like this, I smell weakness. He could have nothing, but without a solid read on him, I'm laying it down on the flop.
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Old 07-29-2005, 07:19 AM #5 (permalink)  
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I don't know why you saw a flop. You raised to 8x the BB and got reraised, and you're holding AKo. Moreover, you've been reraised by a person you deemed as tight. Why are you seeing a flop? Even if you hit that A or K, you might still be losing.

If he's 'agro-ing' it up, then wait for later to check raise him with nothing, then show to piss him off and put him on tilt. or...to check-call the flop and check-raise the river with something and make him pay you off and slow down.

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I agree with ensign, and was going to say that, but forgot to. AKo just isn't THAT good of a hand.

Also, you're calling his raise out of position, which is never good.
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Yucky hand.

Good raise PF, marginal call PF, hopeless call on flop. And I'm assuming you called the AI on the turn, which is also hopeless.
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hopeless call on flop.
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 preflop: good call
flop: gotta fold here
turn: i would forcefully push the fold button just to emphasize that i don't want my chips going in right now.
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Well, it seems my play was as odd as I thought... here's what happened:

SMABUILDER is all-In [$15.95]
devylr: this hurts
devylr calls [$15.95].
** Dealing River ** [ Kh ]
devylr shows [ Ad, Kc ] a pair of kings.
SMABUILDER shows [ Ac, Jh ] high card ace.
devylr wins $49.65 from the main pot with a pair of kings.

SMABUILDER: nice call
devylr: thanks
denhigh: great f'ing call

There was something about the dynamic at this table... some of them were trained to fold to me, others kept trying to buy the pots back off of me. I separated the two groups, and played accordingly...
or maybe I was just out of my mind and lucky he was bluffing.

To me, his style said he'd slow play a high pp. If he had one, he would have let me bet down to the end, that's why I checked the flop. I just felt his AI bet meant he was trying to get me out of the pot. That solid a player doesn't catch a flop like that after a preflop raise.
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