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Old 07-09-2007, 03:18 AM     Post subject: What is your move w/ this KK??? #1 (permalink)  
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Opp seems solid after only 3 rounds so take it w/ grain of salt.

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MP1 ($5.70)
MP2 ($10.20)
CO ($16.45)
Button ($9.50)
SB ($17.70)
Hero ($19.15)
UTG ($14.10)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K, K.
UTG raises to $0.75, 4 folds, SB calls $0.65, Hero raises to $3,Is this right raise?? UTG calls $2.25, SB folds.

Flop: ($6.75) 9, 8, T (2 players)
Hero bets $1.75, to low a bet?? I figured if opp didnt have a hand they had to fold...UTG raises to $11.1, Hero ????

Turn: ($28.95) 6 (2 players)

River: ($28.95) 4 (2 players)

Final Pot: $28.95
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Old 07-09-2007, 03:35 AM #2 (permalink)  
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WAY TOO small flop bet. Why this small when there are so many turn cards that beat you? Overbet the pot to scare off/flush out draws.
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Old 07-09-2007, 03:40 AM #3 (permalink)  
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yeah raise a lot more on the flop. after you made such a weak bet it makes this hard to play because he could just be trying to take the pot away after you made that weak bet.
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Old 07-09-2007, 03:41 AM #4 (permalink)  
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raise size preflop is fine. You could make it $3.50 since you are OOP, but its fine. You CANT bet so small on such a draw heavy flop. You have a good hand, but there are a ton of hands that will complete on the turn and you want to price them out. Bet $6 on the flop and probly fold to a push. You only really beat QQ/bluff here so you cant really call the raise as played.
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Old 07-09-2007, 03:41 AM #5 (permalink)  
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Hmmph. Cbet to $5 call a shove.

You look weak so he could be shoving a decent-sized range here. I call but your cbet is really too small.
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Old 07-09-2007, 04:30 PM #6 (permalink)  
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Thanks.....I actually bet this small intentionally to get opp to push. In the 3 prior rounds he's pushed AI on a small CBet everytime. (I will look back but it was at least 3 times..maybe 4)

Once he pushed I instacalled. I put him on AK, QQ JJ maybe AJ. Opp flipped over AJ and I won the pot.

Is a play like this wrong against someone who you think will push with a top pair and draw or is the over pair way to vulnerable on this board?
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Old 07-09-2007, 05:23 PM #7 (permalink)  
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He's felting the flop regardless.

The smallish bet is fine to induce a bluff however you're flipping against a lot of bluffs. I'd rather induce bluffs in wa/wb situations. It also sucks to get called on this flop with taht puny bet and have to play a turn with a good amount of money still behind.
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Old 07-09-2007, 05:46 PM #8 (permalink)  
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Thank bigspenda73. Good point. Not worth trying to be tricky here. Considering what opp held I was lucky to get out of this hand. Opp had 11 outs (off the top of me head) and with my lame flop bet a simple call on their part may have been a better play.

Either way if a rag comes on the turn they are going AI so lets have them make a decision before that. What would the right bet be on this flop? $6 or so?
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Cbets in 3bet pots do not have to be as big as usual b/c implied odds are cut down due to the fact that the stacks are shallower on the flop. I'd cbet $5-$5.50 and have to call a shove here. Once you do that you're committed on the turn had he just called the flop.
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Hmmph. Cbet to $5 call a shove.
 
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