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michael1123
Old 08-11-2004, 04:47 AM     Post subject: What a suckout! #1 (permalink)  
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Ok, its a coinflip preflop, where we went all in. He didn't play it badly, and I figured he had AK anyway. But after the flop ... my god.

Note: 3rd hand of a tourney, the first I've played.
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PokerStars Game #607380281: Tournament #2319381, Hold'em No Limit - Level I
(10/20) - 2004/08/11 - 00:21:21 (ET)
Table '2319381 1' Seat #3 is the button
Seat 3: kcollier13 (1470 in chips)
Seat 4: VI/XI/XCII (1480 in chips)
Seat 9: Joepa_1 (1500 in chips)
Seat 1: POKER MAD (1300 in chips)
Seat 2: BIGBEE08 (1490 in chips)
Seat 5: michael1123 (1500 in chips)
Seat 6: elwaysj7 (1300 in chips)
Seat 7: harrypokers (1770 in chips)
Seat 8: jimmydbach (1690 in chips)
VI/XI/XCII: posts small blind 10
michael1123: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to michael1123 [Js Jc]
elwaysj7: calls 20
harrypokers: folds
jimmydbach: folds
Joepa_1: folds
POKER MAD: calls 20
BIGBEE08: calls 20
kcollier13: folds
VI/XI/XCII: raises 280 to 300
michael1123: raises 1200 to 1500 and is all-in
elwaysj7: folds
POKER MAD: folds
BIGBEE08: folds
VI/XI/XCII: calls 1180 and is all-in
*** FLOP *** [As Jd 9h]
*** TURN *** [As Jd 9h] [Qs]
*** RIVER *** [As Jd 9h Qs] [Tc]
michael1123 said, "AHHHH"
*** SHOW DOWN ***
VI/XI/XCII: shows [Ac Kc] (a straight, Ten to Ace)
michael1123: shows [Js Jc] (three of a kind, Jacks)
VI/XI/XCII collected 3020 from pot

By the way, I just ran this through my poker calculator to make me more pissed.

Code:
Cards %win %lose %tie Pot equity Odds 
Js Jc 96.77 3.23 0.00 96.80% 30.25:1 
Ac Kc 3.23 96.77 0.00 3.20% 0.03:1
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Old 08-11-2004, 05:19 AM #2 (permalink)  
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This just doesn't seem to be my night.
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PokerStars Game #607494153: Tournament #2319536, Hold'em No Limit - Level IV
(50/100) - 2004/08/11 - 01:07:26 (ET)
Table '2319536 1' Seat #6 is the button
Seat 2: mayberry014 (4020 in chips)
Seat 3: Jkidd22 (4570 in chips)
Seat 5: tallen123 (1815 in chips)
Seat 6: therrijb (1340 in chips)
Seat 7: michael1123 (410 in chips)
Seat 9: RwcTx (1345 in chips)
michael1123: posts small blind 50
RwcTx: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to michael1123 [Jh As]
mayberry014: calls 100
Jkidd22: folds
tallen123: folds
therrijb: folds
michael1123: raises 310 to 410 and is all-in
RwcTx: folds
mayberry014: calls 310
*** FLOP *** [Td 7h 8d]
michael1123 said, "94?"
*** TURN *** [Td 7h 8d] [2d]
*** RIVER *** [Td 7h 8d 2d] [5d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
michael1123: shows [Jh As] (high card Ace)
mayberry014: shows [4d 9s] (a flush, Ten high)
michael1123 said, "hahaha"
mayberry014 collected 920 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 920 | Rake 0
Board [Td 7h 8d 2d 5d]
Seat 2: mayberry014 showed [4d 9s] and won (920) with a flush, Ten high
Seat 3: Jkidd22 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: tallen123 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: therrijb (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: michael1123 (small blind) showed [Jh As] and lost with high card Ace
Seat 9: RwcTx (big blind) folded before Flop
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Old 08-11-2004, 08:26 AM #3 (permalink)  
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Ouch on hand 1, runner runner beats always hurt, I'd say more than 2/4 outers.
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Old 08-11-2004, 11:16 PM #4 (permalink)  
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I feel for you, mikey. You'll make 'em pay, I'm sure.
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Old 08-12-2004, 01:09 PM #5 (permalink)  
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As for the first hand, yeah that's a bad beat, but I don't know if I'd have pushed all-in with a pair of Jacks that early in the game pre-flop. But then again, I do play extremely tight the first few rounds until it's down to 5 or so. I would have pushed after seeing the set on the flop, though, so the results would have been the same.

Sucks

The second hand there's nothing you could have done. You picked a decent hand to go all-in on, and the big stack said "oh, I have crap, I'll call and see if I can eliminate him" *shrug* big-stack priviledge, i suppose.
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Old 08-12-2004, 10:19 PM #6 (permalink)  
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My thinking on the first hand is this. I basically know that he has AK (maybe AQ, but I was pretty sure it was AK) from his preflop play. My all in will isolate him, and he may even fold if he puts me on AA or KK (I'm not counting on this, but there's a chance). If not, I still have a coinflip possibility to win, and I've invested little time into this tournament.

The 2nd hand was just silly, the way it happened. Only reason I posted it.
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