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dannyd267
Old 06-01-2006, 03:30 AM     Post subject: What is he saying? #1 (permalink)  
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0/0 Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) - Wed May 31 22:43:26 EDT 2006
Table Table 98302 (Real Money) -- Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: hopsing64 ( $26.40)
Seat 2: Renno11 ( $25.70)
Seat 3: PokerSteam ( $21.15)
Seat 4: PEgan ( $19.91)
Seat 5: crazyvietzzz ( $24.75)
Seat 6: rsaunders33 ( $32.48)
Seat 7: Termite2222 ( $22.75)
Seat 8: kevin_grozio ( $17.40)
Seat 9: dannyd267 ( $26.45)
Seat 10: sushimaki ( $25.65)
hopsing64 posts small blind (0.10)
Renno11 posts big blind (0.25)
PEgan posts big blind (0.25)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to dannyd267 [ Ad, Js ]
PokerSteam calls (0.25)
PEgan checks.
crazyvietzzz folds.
rsaunders33 folds.
Termite2222 folds.
kevin_grozio folds.
dannyd267 calls (0.25)
sushimaki folds.
hopsing64 calls (0.15)
Renno11 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Tc, 9d, As ]
hopsing64 checks.
Renno11 checks.
PokerSteam checks.
PEgan checks.
dannyd267 bets (1)
hopsing64 folds.
Renno11 folds.
PokerSteam calls (1)
PEgan folds.
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 8h ]
PokerSteam bets (1)
dannyd267 calls (1)
** Dealing River ** : [ Qd ]
PokerSteam bets (15)
dannyd267 ????????

Villain looks to be pretty tight. I haven't seen him in a lot of hands. I really wish the 7 would've hit on me OESD. I did hit the straight but I think he did too with the KJ with his dream Q hitting on the river.

My thinking is that this would be a crying call and I don't have enough chips in the pot to make it worth my while. Just want to know what people are saying when they make these HUGE bets.

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Old 06-01-2006, 03:47 AM #2 (permalink)  
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Either its a bluff, or designed to look like a bluff trying to induce a call from someone holding a J.

You should have been more aggressive with this hand (raise flop, at least - but don't get married to the hand).

As played, fold. Get your money in at a better time. The pot's too small to worry about it.
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Old 06-01-2006, 04:14 AM #3 (permalink)  
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Looks like he wants you to call and pay him. Tough spot to fold though, but I'm thinking you're splitting at best.

You really should raise pre-flop here with AJo IMO.
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Old 06-01-2006, 04:25 AM #4 (permalink)  
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I made the same move on party last year, and this guy paid off 200BB on the river.

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
9 players

Stack sizes:
SB: $56.85
xxJimmyMacxx: $50.80

Pre-flop: (9 players) xxJimmyMacxx is BB with J A
2 folds, MP1 calls, 4 folds, SB calls, xxJimmyMacxx checks.

Flop: K 2 T ($0.75, 3 players)
SB checks, xxJimmyMacxx checks, MP1 checks.

Turn: Q ($0.75, 3 players)
SB checks, xxJimmyMacxx bets $0.5, MP1 folds, SB calls.

River: 9 ($1.75, 2 players)
SB checks, xxJimmyMacxx is all-in $50.05, SB calls.

Results:
Final pot: $101.85

SB lost $50.80 amd showed 8 J
xxJimmyMacxx won $50.80 and showed J A

lol. Don't be that guy.
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Old 06-01-2006, 04:46 AM #5 (permalink)  
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Really, though, you should fold. These bets are usually saying "please, pay me off. I've got a big hand and I want to make it look like I'm bluffing so you'll call". And when they're not, let them have the small pot.

Here's one I dug up from awhile ago. To be fair, I was playing LAggy, so that's probably the only reason he called.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Hero ($74.84)
UTG ($126.71)
Button ($19.70)
SB ($1.85)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 5, 4. SB posts a blind of $0.10.
UTG calls $0.25, 2 folds, Hero checks.

Flop: ($0.60) 4, 4, Q (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks.

Turn: ($0.60) A (2 players)
Hero bets $1, UTG calls $1.

River: ($2.60) 5 (2 players)
Hero calls $73.59 (All-In), UTG calls $73.59.

Final Pot: $149.78

Results below:
Hero has 5h 4s (full house, fours full of fives).
UTG has Qh 6d (two pair, queens and fours).
Outcome: Hero wins $149.78.
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Old 06-01-2006, 05:09 AM #6 (permalink)  
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Where the hell do you find these people?I can;t get paid off on half my monsters.
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Old 06-01-2006, 05:24 AM #7 (permalink)  
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Originally Posted by WhooFleuryScores
Where the hell do you find these people?I can;t get paid off on half my monsters.
I used to think the same thing. It's rare. It helps, however, if you have a poor table image and have shown several bluffs.

Next time you have a monster and a pitifully small pot, just try pushing. You might get more marginal hands to call than you would by value betting (and it doesn't have to work nearly as often). Note: I define "monster" here to be something like nut straight w/5 straight on board (or 4-straight), or a boat that you wouldn't mind paying off a larger boat with (i.e. pushing with 99 on a K9664 board is better than pushing with 99 on a A933A board)

I remember reading a thread somewhere about people open-pushing with AA from the SB. I tried that recently. BB thought a long time about it, before saying something like "what u got?" then "K7" and folded.
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Old 06-01-2006, 02:10 PM #8 (permalink)  
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thanks for the info guys. I did end up laying it down after I thought about a while. I actually let the timer run all the way down. I just pictured some guy sittin at his computer saying "C'mon, do it...do it..DO IT....Call me you BASTARD!!!!!!!!" I let him keep my 2 dollars.

I have also been on the "winning" end of this with the nut straight with a guy calling my all-in with the lower straight...good times. And yes, I didn't want to be that guy.

BTW. This is a great site, You guys are the best and have the best feedback out there.

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