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Old 04-03-2009, 08:59 PM     Post subject: what to dooo #1 (permalink)  
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Initial raiser is 13/12 over 250 hands
Re-raiser is 10/8, 4.5% 3-bet over 700 hands.

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Old 04-03-2009, 09:49 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Old 04-03-2009, 10:01 PM #3 (permalink)  
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27/call obv.
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Old 04-03-2009, 11:37 PM #4 (permalink)  
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haha this is exactly like a hand redzilla posted a while back. iirc I said call>4bet/call=shove>>fold>>>>>>4bet fold.

mcat and bb I think convinced me that a call puts our hand face up, and they're probs right.. maybe 4bet/call>call>>>fold>>>>>>>>>4bet/fold
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Old 04-04-2009, 02:25 AM #5 (permalink)  
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4 bet get it in obv.
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Old 04-04-2009, 05:55 AM #6 (permalink)  
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27/call obv.
we don't look kindly upon minraises round these parts
 
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Old 04-04-2009, 06:03 AM #7 (permalink)  
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i was gonna ask about that actually. i've been giving 4-bet minraises little respect... my standard 4-bet here would be something like 38'ish.. is it too much?
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27/call obv.
we don't look kindly upon minraises round these parts
Minraise is 25 sir =). Anywhere between 27-33 is obv fine. Though I don't think anyone 4b/f's when they put 1/3 of their stack in.
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Old 04-04-2009, 02:09 PM #9 (permalink)  
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if i 4bet it'll be around 30ish total

i usually call here and outplay opponent postflop


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Minraise is 25 sir =).
wat?
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Old 04-04-2009, 07:18 PM #11 (permalink)  
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Minraise is 25 sir =).
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minraise is 27, and if you raise much more than that it becomes obvious you're not folding so he can put you on a tighter range (which is correct here) and be less likely to make a mistake on his shove/fold decision. So minraise.
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Old 04-06-2009, 01:12 AM #13 (permalink)  
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villians 3bet range seems fairly tight.. is there noone here who thinks folding is not a terrible thing here OOP? or is that just way too tight?

what is 3-bet range here from this villian? wouldnt it be weighted towards AQ+, QQ+??

seems like a tricky spot. some people think 4bet/get it in, but for others who say call, how would you play? do you donk a flop withought AorK, c/r?...
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Old 04-06-2009, 08:57 PM #14 (permalink)  
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I'm just calling here and seeing how the flop comes out.
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Old 04-06-2009, 09:01 PM #15 (permalink)  
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Wow my math sucks. W.e 28 then POWER MINRAISE.

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Wow my math sucks. W.e 28 then POWER MINRAISE.

Don't talk to me about maff =( IRC knows this atleast =(
I haff it on good authorities it is idiotic anywayz.
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Old 04-07-2009, 08:22 PM #17 (permalink)  
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i think you should fold this
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Old 04-07-2009, 08:25 PM #18 (permalink)  
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i think you should fold this
you're the only one to say this.. which i ended up doing
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i think you should fold this
you're the only one to say this.. which i ended up doing
I'm not folding.
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Old 04-08-2009, 12:11 AM #20 (permalink)  
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i think you should fold this
4.5% 3bet is actually pretty loose imo.
 
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Old 04-08-2009, 12:13 AM #21 (permalink)  
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i think you should fold this
4.5% 3bet is actually pretty loose imo.
it is, but i just didnt know what to make of the 5x reraise
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