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edudlive

09-22-2005, 03:17 AM Post subject: what does opp have?

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PokerStars Game #2631614192: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2005/09/21 - 23:13:59 (ET)
Table 'Pales' Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: edudlive ($30.40 in chips)
Seat 2: bozo420 ($5.45 in chips)
Seat 4: waxer_28 ($9.40 in chips)
Seat 5: blainster ($5.85 in chips)
Seat 6: tx149 ($22.65 in chips)
blainster: posts small blind $0.10
tx149: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to edudlive [Qd Ac]
edudlive: raises $0.75 to $1
bozo420: folds
waxer_28: folds
blainster: folds
tx149: calls $0.75
*** FLOP *** [Ts Qc 7c]
tx149: checks
edudlive: bets $1
tx149: calls $1
*** TURN *** [Ts Qc 7c] [As]
tx149: checks
edudlive: bets $1.75
tx149: calls $1.75
*** RIVER *** [Ts Qc 7c As] [6c]
tx149: checks
edudlive: bets $1.50
tx149: raises $3.50 to $5
edudlive: folds
tx149 collected $10.10 from pot
tx149: doesn't show hand
diamondace has returned
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $10.60 | Rake $0.50
Board [Ts Qc 7c As 6c]
Seat 1: edudlive folded on the River
Seat 2: bozo420 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: waxer_28 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: blainster (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: tx149 (big blind) collected ($10.10)

I'm pretty sure it was a set, possibly flush but I doubt it. He thought for a LONG time before calling each bet.

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edudlive

09-22-2005, 03:26 AM

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A later hand from OPP:

PokerStars Game #2631707193: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2005/09/21 - 23:24:13 (ET)
Table 'Pales' Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: edudlive ($24.85 in chips)
Seat 2: bozo420 ($5 in chips)
Seat 5: blainster ($3.65 in chips)
Seat 6: tx149 ($45.75 in chips)
waxer_28 leaves the table
tx149: posts small blind $0.10
edudlive: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to edudlive [3d Ts]
bozo420: folds
blainster: folds
tx149: raises $0.25 to $0.50
edudlive: calls $0.25
*** FLOP *** [2c 6c Th]
tx149: checks
edudlive: bets $0.75
tx149: calls $0.75
*** TURN *** [2c 6c Th] [7d]
tx149: checks
edudlive: checks
*** RIVER *** [2c 6c Th 7d] [3h]
tx149: bets $0.75
edudlive: raises $0.75 to $1.50
tx149: calls $0.75
*** SHOW DOWN ***
edudlive: shows [3d Ts] (two pair, Tens and Threes)
tx149: mucks hand
edudlive collected $5.25 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $5.50 | Rake $0.25
Board [2c 6c Th 7d 3h]
Seat 1: edudlive (big blind) showed [3d Ts] and won ($5.25) with two pair, Tens and Threes
Seat 2: bozo420 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: blainster (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: tx149 (small blind) mucked [Ks Qs]

and another:

PokerStars Game #2631734818: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2005/09/21 - 23:27:16 (ET)
Table 'Pales' Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: edudlive ($27.10 in chips)
Seat 2: bozo420 ($4 in chips)
Seat 5: blainster ($7.65 in chips)
Seat 6: tx149 ($39.85 in chips)
Slutty Pot will be allowed to play after the button
blainster: posts small blind $0.10
tx149: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to edudlive [Th Js]
edudlive: calls $0.25
bozo420: folds
blainster: calls $0.15
tx149: checks
*** FLOP *** [6d Kc 2d]
blainster: checks
Slutty Pot joins the table at seat #4
tx149: checks
edudlive: bets $0.75
blainster: folds
tx149: calls $0.75
*** TURN *** [6d Kc 2d] [Jc]
tx149: checks
edudlive: checks
*** RIVER *** [6d Kc 2d Jc] [5d]
tx149: checks
edudlive: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
tx149: shows [2h 3c] (a pair of Deuces)
edudlive: shows [Th Js] (a pair of Jacks)
edudlive collected $2.15 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $2.25 | Rake $0.10
Board [6d Kc 2d Jc 5d]
Seat 1: edudlive showed [Th Js] and won ($2.15) with a pair of Jacks
Seat 2: bozo420 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: blainster (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 6: tx149 (big blind) showed [2h 3c] and lost with a pair of Deuces

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bencathers

09-22-2005, 04:45 AM

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Absolutely no way this is a set. No set plays like this on a draw heavy board - unless you think its a set of 6's which would make him probably one of the worst players around.

No way you fold this. Not in NL. He's check/calling, check/calling and then check-raise. If you really thought he hit the flush/had a set, then CHECK THE RIVER.

And if he does have the flush. You pay him off. You tell him "NH" and realize he's going to chase. In 25 NL Chasing = $$$$ (for the person betting, not the chaser). Let him win that and take the rest. I'm almost positive you have this one won. I like the value bet, but with the scare river card and you being the aggressive one in betting, check if you want. BUT DO NOT FOLD! DO NOT FOLD!!!!!!!!!!

sorry. I really don't think you lost this hand at all... unless he has a flush and you just buddy list him and destack him.

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Laeelin

09-22-2005, 04:21 PM

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Rondavu

09-22-2005, 05:05 PM

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I agree with everyone else. You gotta pay this off. Given the information about your opponent thinking a lot before each act, you have to pay it off.

If he does have the flush then understand his deceptive behavior (waiting to bet or call)

Feels like he hit a lower two pair on the river and wasn't putting you on a flush so he raised.

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edudlive

09-22-2005, 05:14 PM

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So what is it about this that should make me call? I don't quite understand

After thinking about it today it does seem more likely that he hit a smaller two pair but what should make me think that?

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