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journey075
Old 12-05-2005, 12:17 AM     Post subject: what do you do on this flop? standard? #1 (permalink)  
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Game #1498971863: Hold'em NL ($0.25/$0.50) - 2005/12/04 - 19:51:04 (ET)
Table "Tansy" Seat 2 is the button.
Seat 1: jolio sits out
Seat 2: izlbrizl ($28.15 in chips)
Seat 3: Botto ($69.78 in chips)
Seat 4: mesterj ($3.98 in chips)
Seat 5: firewire ($58.20 in chips)
Seat 6: ROOKIE21 ($39.75 in chips)
Botto: posts small blind $0.25
jolio sits back
mesterj: posts big blind $0.50
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to firewire [Ah Ad]
firewire: raises to $2.50
ROOKIE21: folds
jolio: folds
izlbrizl: calls $2.50
Botto: raises to $8
mesterj: folds
firewire: raises to $20
izlbrizl: folds
Botto: calls $12
----- FLOP ----- [2d Kc 6c]
Botto: bets $49.78 and is all-in
firewire: is all-in $38.20
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Old 12-05-2005, 12:21 AM #2 (permalink)  
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o It's short handed, so I'm less inclined to put him on KK.
o KK will check this flop quite often and let you get pot-struck.
o With the pot equal to the size of your stack, no f'n way I laydown any hand with showdown value.

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Old 12-05-2005, 12:21 AM #3 (permalink)  
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Re-raise all in preflop. His preflop play makes it look like he has QQ or KK, probably KK. He probably knows you have a high pocket pair since you raised and re-raised, thinking you'd call his all in on the flop. I'd say you lost since if you won this hand you probably wouldn't have posted on FTR.
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You got in 1/3 of your stack with AA pre-flop. Whatever the results are you won this hand.
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Old 12-05-2005, 12:25 AM #5 (permalink)  
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just making sure theres no chance of laying this down.

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Old 12-05-2005, 12:26 AM #6 (permalink)  
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Re-raise all in preflop. His preflop play makes it look like he has QQ or KK, probably KK. He probably knows you have a high pocket pair since you raised and re-raised, thinking you'd call his all in on the flop. I'd say you lost since if you won this hand you probably wouldn't have posted on FTR.
i won, he had AK. it was a crying call though.
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Old 12-05-2005, 12:29 AM #7 (permalink)  
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You got in 1/3 of your stack with AA pre-flop. Whatever the results are you won this hand.
while i understand that its +ev to call regardless, just wanted to know how many would even consider a laydown.
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Old 12-05-2005, 01:04 AM #8 (permalink)  
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You got in 1/3 of your stack with AA pre-flop. Whatever the results are you won this hand.
while i understand that its +ev to call regardless, just wanted to know how many would even consider a laydown.
The only mistake you possibly could make here is folding.

...and this is a long long long fucking way from a crying call. If you seriously think this is a crying call then you're probably folding too much.
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Old 12-05-2005, 01:37 AM #9 (permalink)  
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He hit is King, so what? Fnord is right, i only need like 1/4 of my stack in preflop to not even consider laying it down.
 
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Old 12-05-2005, 02:41 AM #10 (permalink)  
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 No one has the guts to do that with Trips after his opponent showed huge strength preflop, with that thinking it's an easy call.
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Old 12-05-2005, 10:08 PM #11 (permalink)  
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No one has the guts to do that with Trips after his opponent showed huge strength preflop, with that thinking it's an easy call.
That makes no sense. If I set on the flop I certainly would push knowing my opponent would call. He would call because he showed that much strength PF.

The call is easy because that much money was put in PF. I am not fearing set here because he would have to put in that much with a PP AND he would have to hit. The fact that a K shows on the flop reduces the chances that he holds KK. Reguardless, I am calling this flop with an overpair.

Easy call.
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Old 12-05-2005, 11:17 PM #12 (permalink)  
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 You dont put it down post flop thats for sure.
Calling the reraise is nice imo.
Id be shoving the flop anyway if i get some action and if opp hits a king with KK then he broke em. Oh well.
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