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Old 04-05-2006, 10:10 PM     Post subject: What do y'all think? #1 (permalink)  
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Paradise $50 table. I limp from the button w/ 9/10 offsuit. Flop comes Q 10 8 rainbow. I check, MP bets $1.5o into a $2.50 pot. I minraise to $3. He calls. Turn is a 10. I bet $5, he calls. River's a K. I bet $10, he raises to $20. I call. Well played, or would you have done something different?
 
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Old 04-05-2006, 10:29 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Raise pre-flop.

Post-flop action is f'd up? You're the button right?

I don't get the flop raise, what do you want him to do?
 
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Old 04-05-2006, 10:34 PM #3 (permalink)  
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If you were going to play, you should have raised preflop IMO. As played, fold the flop or raise like a man. 3x or so oughta keep him from chasing his straight. As played past the flop I'd consider folding this river. A whole shitload of hands beat you.
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3x or so oughta keep him from chasing his straight.
 
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Old 04-06-2006, 06:53 AM #5 (permalink)  
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I don't get the flop raise, what do you want him to do?
I want him to either fold, or more likely, call with whatever nothing hand he has and then check/fold the turn. Is this not a common lagg line? Would you have just called the flop bet instead?

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If you were going to play, you should have raised preflop IMO. As played, fold the flop or raise like a man. 3x or so oughta keep him from chasing his straight. As played past the flop I'd consider folding this river. A whole shitload of hands beat you.
I think there was one other guy PF.
 
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Old 04-06-2006, 07:02 AM     Post subject: Re: What do y'all think? #6 (permalink)  
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Paradise $50 table. I limp from the button w/ 9/10 offsuit. Flop comes Q 10 8 rainbow. I check, MP bets $1.5o into a $2.50 pot. I minraise to $3. He calls. Turn is a 10. I bet $5, he calls. River's a K. I bet $10, he raises to $20. I call. Well played, or would you have done something different?
You have a pair and a gut shot (4 outs to a straight). A pair and an 8-out straight would be an easy raise on the flop, this is more of a toss-up. I think you generally did good. But personally I would have hammered the turn a bit harder. You hit your set, that is good, but he could still beat you if he hits a straight, so you need to give him bad pot odds to chase it if he is on a draw.
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Old 04-06-2006, 05:04 PM #7 (permalink)  
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pot the flop. Check call river.
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Old 04-06-2006, 05:27 PM #8 (permalink)  
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If you were going to play, you should have raised preflop IMO.
So, your standard play with a drawing hand like this on the button is always a raise? Not disputing, just asking.
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You hit your set, that is good, but he could still beat you if he hits a straight, so you need to give him bad pot odds to chase it if he is on a draw.
Didn't I do that betting 5 into an 8.50 pot? That's 2.7 to 1 when the odds of him hitting an OESD are about 4 to 1, right?

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pot the flop. Check call river.
Yes, I think this line is good.
 
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Old 04-06-2006, 05:31 PM #9 (permalink)  
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So, your standard play with a drawing hand like this on the button is always a raise? Not disputing, just asking.
Your standard line on the button with any two decent cards in an unraised pot should be to raise. You own this pot.
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