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02-10-2006, 08:30 PM
Post subject: What to do.. QQ.. What to do....
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Thoughts: I've been playing tight and solid. Took somebody's 50BB stack earlier with AA v KQ on K high flop. Been picking up small pots here and there recently. Havn't seen a whole lot of villain but he seems alright. I'm at my new place (no pokertracker yet) so no hard stats, but I havn't seen anything out of the ordinary.
Thoughts on hand: considered raising flop, but I felt my strong but beatable hand along with my position and image just warranted a call. His preflop line all but rules out KK-AA, quads is obviously very unlikely, and I don't think he bets 99 this agressively. I could be wrong on all, but just my observations.
His turn bet confused me to say the least.. it was just begging to be raised. Do I raise and play for stacks?
River is very easy with the Q out here. More importantly, if river blanks, how do I play this? Fold to third lead OOP into PFRer?
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (8 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx
UTG+1 ($179.80)
MP1 ($112.90)
Hero ($246.10)
CO ($99.80)
Button ($44.50)
SB ($99.90)
BB ($95.90)
UTG ($83.85)
Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q , Q .
UTG calls $1, 1 fold, MP1 calls $1, Hero raises to $5, 4 folds, UTG folds, MP1 calls $4.
Flop: ($12.50) 9, 3 , 3 (2 players)
MP1 bets $10, Hero calls $10.
Turn: ($32.50) 2 (2 players)
MP1 bets $10, Hero calls $10.
River: ($52.50) Q (2 players)
MP1 bets $30, Hero raises to $221.1, MP1 calls $57.90 (All-In).
Final Pot: $361.50
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Fnord
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Ni Han
I sometimes raise/fold the turn.
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Lukie
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Originally Posted by Fnord
Ni Han
I sometimes raise/fold the turn.
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As played, what do you do on a blank river? K/A river?
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Originally Posted by Fnord
Ni Han
I sometimes raise/fold the turn.
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As played, what do you do on a blank river? K/A river? |
Check river unimproved.
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Lukie
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Originally Posted by Fnord
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Originally Posted by Lukie
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Originally Posted by Fnord
Ni Han
I sometimes raise/fold the turn.
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As played, what do you do on a blank river? K/A river? |
Check river unimproved. |
lol I meant facing a bet. Can I call a $30 bet here unimproved?
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lol I meant facing a bet. Can I call a $30 bet here unimproved?
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Missed the "as played" part.
I think he thinks he has a hand. If an A or K falls and he makes that bet, then I often lay it down. Hence, I'd rather settle things on the turn if I don't think he's capable of putting me to a difficult decision.
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Good points.. thanks for the feedback on both hands.
He flipped over a 36s...
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raise the turn?
nice suckout
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raise the turn?
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I think it's sometimes a better line than calling with a showdownable hand. Although I tend to pick spots in where the paradox of worse hands calling and better hands folding sometimes holds.
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how much of a key is position here?
I think position allows us to call the turn and then simply decide on the river
Or does position give us the oppertunity to push opp off his hand and/or define his hand to us so that we dont need to put anymore in the pot on the river?
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how much of a key is position here?
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Huge. A turn raise has good implied threat.
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Or does position give us the oppertunity to push opp off his hand and/or define his hand to us so that we dont need to put anymore in the pot on the river?
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Yup. Although I prefer to do this with stronger/weaker hands than our hero has here.
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