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Old 09-04-2006, 06:59 PM     Post subject: Well-concealed trips vs two tighties and a LAGGTARD. #1 (permalink)  
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Comments appreciated - and even preflop (is limp-calling is +EV here, being OOP and with a tightie on the button? My line of thought - if I flop huge there's a chance to get paid (possibly big implied odds, already good sized pot and I'm getting 4:1 on my call), else get away relatively cheap)

My table image should be tight: UTG+1 has been lagging it up so it's difficult to get involved in pots with him in virtually every hand.

UTG+1 is a total Laggtard who has been playing every.single.flop. No preflop raise is too big, no pot too small to bluff at or buy. However, he does seem to be careful in multiway pots. Previously I have beat him with a runner-runner straight after he didn't bet a flopped top pr.

I am honestly uncertain if he will commit further chips on the turn if flat called on the flop.

CO is supersupersuper tight. This is the first time I've noticed action around him in about 20+ hands on the table.

no real read on SB.

So the question here is: call the flop to potentially suck in CO who is probably on a tight range, or raise to isolate?


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UTG ($109.20)
UTG+1 ($65.20)
Hero ($141.80)
MP2 ($90.70)
CO ($108.15)
Button ($97.20)
SB ($131.95)
BB ($98.50)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with , .
UTG calls $1, UTG+1 calls $1, Hero calls $1, 1 fold, CO raises to $5, 1 fold, SB calls $4.50, 1 fold, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls $4, Hero calls $4.

Flop: ($22) , , (4 players)
SB checks, UTG+1 bets $19, Hero .......
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Old 09-04-2006, 07:21 PM #2 (permalink)  
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 instacall, then think for a while and push over tighty's raise which should commit him (is he gay enough to not raise the laggtard with QQ-AA?)

if raise the donk on this flop in front of the original raiser, he will probably fold, and the tard will most likely fold as well since he will have tpwk or worse a lot of the time.

you have to value your chances of stacking someone here over protecting your hand, since your opponents will only have two outs to beat you.
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instacall, then think for a while and push over tighty's raise which should commit him (is he gay enough to not raise the laggtard with QQ-AA?)

if raise the donk on this flop in front of the original raiser, he will probably fold, and the tard will most likely fold as well since he will have tpwk or worse a lot of the time.

you have to value your chances of stacking someone here over protecting your hand, since your opponents will only have two outs to beat you.
Which do you think is a stronger play?

Calling flop which effectively builds pot but gives op chance to slow down plus scare cards.

Flat out pushing repping a desperate JJ/QQ, or a T? A lot of players will pay this move off more on a board like this.
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Old 09-05-2006, 03:42 AM #4 (permalink)  
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I like nutsinho's line more than flat pushing...maybe against deeper thinkers flat pushing is better because a "tighty" calling will look a bit stronger then a flat push, but I think these opps see call as weak and push as strong.
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