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Old 01-08-2008, 02:51 PM     Post subject: Weak fold with JJ? #1 (permalink)  
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Villain is 38/3/.6
Too weak?

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CO ($1.70)
Button ($13.95)
SB ($4)
BB ($11.05)
Hero ($10.55)
UTG+1 ($3.80)
MP1 ($5.25)
MP2 ($1.85)
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Preflop: Hero is UTG with , .
Hero raises to $0.5, 6 folds, SB calls $0.45, 1 fold.

Flop: ($1.10) , , (2 players)
SB bets $0.3, Hero calls $0.30.

Turn: ($1.70) (2 players)
SB bets $1, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $1.70
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Old 01-08-2008, 03:14 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Very weak. I see what you're saying. Someone who's 38/3 rarely takes the lead. They're usually what I call "literal" bettors. I think one can get carried away with that notion in spots like this however, as people are still capable of doing random shit all the time.

Put villain on a pair smaller than yours, and raise the turn to $3ish. Let him call with 44, 55, 77, 99, TT, XXc. If he raises all in you fold obv.
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Old 01-08-2008, 03:39 PM #3 (permalink)  
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raise flop to 1.50 to make things clear/dont let clubs draw for cheap, fold 2 shove
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Old 01-08-2008, 05:22 PM #4 (permalink)  
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 He is short-stacking $10NL which deserves no respect. His betting out is probably a middle pair and a flush draw; 1% of the time it is an 8.

Raise the flop to $1.20 and call a shove (it's like $2 more). If he calls the flop put him in on the turn.
 
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Old 01-08-2008, 05:23 PM #5 (permalink)  
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imo because your hand is unlikely to improve you are better raising early should be better. Also there are a lot of cards that make yours look horrible. I think I've made the mistake of not raising that weak flop bet before and then felt horrible on the turn. Its also a lot cheaper to raise the flop and find out where you are than raising the turn for the same information.
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Old 01-16-2008, 11:05 PM #6 (permalink)  

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raise the flop. u smooth called the flop making it easy for villain to fire again with a small pair putting u on overs. turn is a brick i can never see myself folding here. im at least calling.
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