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Malfunction
Old 09-17-2005, 07:16 AM     Post subject: way to passive? #1 (permalink)  

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PL quite loose ringgame. i still have a habit of slowplaying good flops..but maybe i shouldnt here..?
my first post here btw. dont let that stop the flaming tho
------HAND 60------
Game #913645704: Texas Hold'em Pot Limit ($0.15/$0.25) - 2005/09/17 - 00:48:00 (ET)
Table "Mira" Seat 6 is the button.
Seat 1: Betrayer ($47.43 in chips)
Seat 2: brianlfc ($10.70 in chips)
Seat 3: KevinM11 ($49.26 in chips)
Seat 4: J0SEPH ($36.70 in chips)
Seat 5: jiggse ($17.85 in chips)
Seat 6: Stealin ($19.70 in chips)
Seat 7: cptmorgn1 ($28.40 in chips)
Seat 8: nazztuzzi ($28.71 in chips)
Seat 9: __ANNA__ ($8.25 in chips)
cptmorgn1: posts small blind $0.15
nazztuzzi: posts big blind $0.25
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to Betrayer [Kh Qc]
__ANNA__: folds
Betrayer: raises to $0.50
brianlfc: folds
KevinM11: folds
J0SEPH: folds
jiggse: folds
Stealin: calls $0.50
cptmorgn1: folds
nazztuzzi: folds
----- FLOP ----- [Ts Qd Ks]
Betrayer: checks
Stealin: checks
----- TURN ----- [Ts Qd Ks][4s]
Betrayer: bets $1
Stealin: calls $1
----- RIVER ----- [Ts Qd Ks 4s][4h]
Betrayer: bets $3.40
Stealin: raises to $13.60
__ANNA__ leaves the table
Betrayer: calls $10.20
----- SHOW DOWN -----
Stealin: shows [4c Tc] (A Full House, Fours full of Tens)
Betrayer: mucks hand
Stealin collected $29.10 from Main pot
----- SUMMARY -----
Total pot $30.60 Main pot $29.10 Rake $1.50
Board [Ts Qd Ks 4s 4h]
Seat 1: Betrayer mucked
Seat 2: brianlfc folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: KevinM11 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: J0SEPH folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: jiggse folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Stealin (button) showed [4c Tc] and won ($29.10) with A Full House, Fours full of Tens
Seat 7: cptmorgn1 (small blind) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: nazztuzzi (big blind) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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Old 09-17-2005, 08:29 AM #2 (permalink)  
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I'm fairly new to this site and online play, but heres my 2 cents worth.

I also slow play good flops, but not on a board that has real potential to beat you; there was a straight and flush draw there. I would have bet to protect the pot - if I won a small pot, so be it (better than losing). If he decided to chase against pot odds, I would note that down on his player notes and make him pay me back next time. On a loose table especially I try not to let anybody chase because I have no idea what these idiots may be going in with on my preflop raises. You got unlucky on the river (otherwise you probably would have taken a nice pot), but it happens.
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Old 09-17-2005, 03:39 PM #3 (permalink)  
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every action you took let him catch what he needed. you needed to bet the flop, you want to make the straight + flush draws pay. PL and NL differ in that sense. PL and even Limit require being paid off by the drawing hands. Your big mistake is calling a pot sized raise on a paired board with 3 to a straight and 3 to a flush.
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Old 09-17-2005, 03:53 PM #4 (permalink)  
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Here's how I would have played this different, and I'm not sure there was much you can do here to avoid the result:

1. limp KQos from early position, its just not strong enough for a raise (and fold it to a raise)

2. bet .50 on the flop (you want to keep him in and get value so you start him small to build the pot - also there are two nasty draws staring at you)

3. the 4 looks like a blank so bet 1/2 the pot - he will call here but he may raise - if he raises you may be able to put him on the boat when..

4. the second 4 looks like a blank too but if he overbets it you may be able to let it go give the action in step 3
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Malfunction
Old 09-18-2005, 12:48 PM #5 (permalink)  

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yes i realise now that it was stupid 2 slowplay this..since it was such a dangerous flop.. at least i learned alot from it, thnx to your answers i wont slowplay those hands again. the fishes call me anyway so why not bet for some serious value? (and hope 2 get a bit lucky)
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outphase
Old 09-18-2005, 04:00 PM #6 (permalink)  
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I didn't even realize you raised preflop... Never check the flop when you raised preflop, esp from UTG... it sends flags out like mad
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