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Old 03-18-2006, 11:51 PM     Post subject: Walking the dog. #1 (permalink)  
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BB ($13.43)
UTG ($57.25)
UTG+1 ($15)
UTG+2 ($16.60)
MP1 ($29.60)
Hero ($50)
MP3 ($39)
CO ($93)
Button ($41.38)
SB ($38.75)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q, 3. Hero posts a blind of $0.50. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
UTG calls $0.50, 1 fold, UTG+2 calls $0.50, 1 fold, Hero (poster) checks, 2 folds, Button calls $0.50, SB (poster) completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($3) J, 3, 3 (6 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+2 checks, Hero checks, Button bets $4, SB folds, BB folds, UTG folds, UTG+2 folds, Hero calls $4.

Turn: ($11) 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $4, Hero calls $4.

River: ($19) 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $20.03, Hero raises to $40.06, Button folds.

Final Pot: $79.09

Results in white below:
Hero has Qh 3d (three of a kind, threes).
Outcome: Hero wins $79.09.

I am posting this hand because it is of interest to me. Is it +EV to for villain to fold like this when hes got 4/5 of his stack in the middle, even if he's almost he's losing?

I definitely admire his discipline to lay down a hand like that, not feeling pot committed at all, whether its +EV or not.
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Old 03-18-2006, 11:57 PM #2 (permalink)  
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You take this guys stack if you lead the flop....your line reaks of trips...in fact I am suprised he bet the river at all.
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Old 03-19-2006, 12:37 AM #3 (permalink)  
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 I always play big blind specials passively like this. Its kinda a principle of mine. I look at it like "well I'd never play this hand under any other circumstances, so anything I make here is like a bonus." This is probably a horrible way of looking at it, but at the same time, you really do look like a chump when you lose a big pot with Q3.
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Old 03-19-2006, 12:46 AM #4 (permalink)  
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You look like a genious when you show it down though and win a big one....all I am saying is...I don't think anyone else has a 3...and therefore I lead and go for someones stack.
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Old 03-19-2006, 12:56 AM #5 (permalink)  
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i dont think it does a great number of times
As a note, im of the very small group (perhaps 1) that beleives folding the worst hand is always best. Calling or moving all in with what you have left on the second best hand is dumb, dunno about ev or not.
Saying that i call a lot of rivers with decent pot odds on my hand to find i have the best where i never thought i did.
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Old 03-19-2006, 07:09 PM #6 (permalink)  
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I would just call the river. Button either hit really big too or has air. This looks a lot like air.
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Old 03-19-2006, 09:24 PM #7 (permalink)  
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I would just call the river. Button either hit really big too or has air. This looks a lot like air.
Agreed, I really don't like buttons river overbet if he has a TPTK type of hand.
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