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Old 10-19-2005, 08:33 PM     Post subject: A viable tactic? #1 (permalink)  
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So everyone is wary of UTG limp-raises for those monstrous aces. Just an experiment, but is it +EV on the basis of their conviction that I have a monster, opinions?

------HAND 5------
Game #1098863573: Hold'em NL ($0.50/$1) - 2005/10/19 - 21:26:28 (UK)
Table "Steelton" Seat 2 is the button.
Seat 1: Edwards27 ($124.75 in chips)
Seat 2: LooseDog ($100.50 in chips)
Seat 3: Boxer3 ($101 in chips)
Seat 4: Milox1 ($98.25 in chips)
Seat 5: Smiffy44 ($60.50 in chips)
Seat 6: dbthe1 ($53.50 in chips)
Seat 7: Jeffmcsha ($98 in chips)
Seat 8: JackPozzi ($103.50 in chips)
Seat 9: JANG ($7.50 in chips)
Seat 10: jvaldmann sits out
Boxer3: posts small blind $0.50
Milox1: posts big blind $1
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to Smiffy44 [4h 3h]
Smiffy44: calls $1
dbthe1: folds
Jeffmcsha: folds
JackPozzi: folds
JANG: folds
Edwards27: folds
LooseDog: raises to $2
Boxer3: folds
Milox1: folds
Smiffy44: raises to $5
LooseDog: folds
Returned uncalled bets $3 to Smiffy44
Smiffy44: doesn't show hand
Smiffy44 collected $5.50 from Main pot
----- SUMMARY -----
Total pot $5.50 Main pot $5.50 Rake $0
Seat 1: Edwards27 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: LooseDog (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Boxer3 (small blind) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Milox1 (big blind) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Smiffy44 collected $5.50
Seat 6: dbthe1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Jeffmcsha folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: JackPozzi folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: JANG folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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Old 10-19-2005, 08:41 PM #2 (permalink)  
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That's amusing . As long as you don't do that too often, and only do it against one opponent who is demonstrably timid, I don't see why that shouldn't be added to your arsenal.
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Old 10-19-2005, 09:09 PM #3 (permalink)  
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Only under certain conditions. Obviously you wouldn't try this play against a total rock.

If you have a laggy player open, who in turn gets several callers after you've limped in first position, it's probably not a bad idea to then put out a substantial raise and win the pot right there regardless of your cards.
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Old 10-19-2005, 10:22 PM #4 (permalink)  
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and if you get a caller or two and hit the flop would it be right to say you get great implied odds?
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Old 10-19-2005, 10:52 PM #5 (permalink)  
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Against smart people that are aware of the UTG limp raise with a big hand this would work everyonce in a while.
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Old 10-19-2005, 10:55 PM #6 (permalink)  
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My favorite way to rep AA/KK is to pump out a 8bb+ raise out of the blinds after a bunch of tight limpers come in.
 
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Old 10-19-2005, 11:11 PM #7 (permalink)  
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You should have showed, might have made for some tilt and payoffs
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Old 10-19-2005, 11:21 PM #8 (permalink)  
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You should have showed, might have made for some tilt and payoffs
I would only show here if I regularly did limp re-raise AA/KK. I used to run this play a lot, but not nearly as much anymore as I've come around to thinking opening for a raise is a much better play for my game.
 
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