Originally Posted by pokerfan

When we raise/shove with drawing hand on the flop, we should have at least a little fold equity.

Originally Posted by badgers

i disagree here. AK high could very easily be the best hand and he will call.

Originally Posted by pokerfan

lets pokerstove , provided that he didnt flop sets or two pairs and overbet with wide range. Do you want to risk your 180BB stack without any fold equity in this small pot??
11,880 games 0.005 secs 2,376,000 games/sec

Board: 2d 9d Td
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 45.455% 45.08% 00.38% 5355 45.00 { AsKd }
Hand 1: 54.545% 54.17% 00.38% 6435 45.00 { 8c8d, 7d7s, 6d6h, 5c5d, AdQc, AdJs, AsTc, Ac9h, Ad9s, Ad7s, Ad2s, JdTc, Tc8h }

Originally Posted by badgers

Why've you weighted his range like that? That's a really bad range imo he's so much wider than that, for instance you put in AdQc but not AcQd, you think he play that differently? And to say we don't have any fold equity is possibly wrong, I've seen stranger plays even if he folds 5% of the time that changes things dramatically.

Originally Posted by pokerfan

dude, i didnt even include made flush 2d3d ,92,T2 or garbage two pairs in his range
our TPTK,TPMK ,overpair or monster nuts drawing hand gain huge value against uber LAGG and are good enough to stack off with.
Here, the fundamentals of No limit poker are telling that its just too volatile for us to overcommit and stack off 180BB deep in a small pot without made hand or huge nuts drawing hand vs Uber loose donks. Is is clear,badgers?

Originally Posted by badgers

Ummmmmmm try inputting the correct hand...

1,070,190 games 0.047 secs 22,770,000 games/sec

Board: Td 9d 2d
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 67.001% 66.62% 00.38% 712919 4117.50 { AsKd }
Hand 1: 32.999% 32.61% 00.38% 349036 4117.50 { random }


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