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Old 07-22-2008, 10:12 AM     Post subject: valuetowning 3bet pot top set #1 (permalink)  
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PokerStars Game #19009110913: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2008/07/22 - 06:06:29 (ET)
Table 'Matar' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: Burges1102 ($71.30 in chips)
Seat 2: Noa Stephan ($236.15 in chips)
Seat 3: Sir0 ($273.90 in chips)
Seat 4: al_rus ($238.45 in chips)
Seat 5: VCaesar77 ($75.05 in chips)
Seat 7: birdzai ($187.80 in chips)
Seat 8: C4yenne ($40 in chips)
Seat 9: Peeeedor ($328.95 in chips)
VCaesar77: posts small blind $1
birdzai: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to birdzai [Ac Ad]
C4yenne: folds
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Peeeedor: raises $4 to $6
Burges1102: folds
Noa Stephan: folds
Sir0: folds
al_rus: folds
VCaesar77: folds
birdzai: raises $14 to $20
Peeeedor: calls $14
*** FLOP *** [Qc Js Ah]
birdzai: bets $30
Peeeedor: calls $30
*** TURN *** [Qc Js Ah] [3s]
birdzai: CHEx?!??!

I think so, right? he stack off pf with KK anyway, he gonna stack off with QQ and JJ anyway, but maybe AK or a nitty AQ is scared... so chex? if villain bet shove ?

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btw this is like my 200th FR hand ever compared to like 250K 6m

pf i bet too fast like usual and really meant 4x oop like renton always say. ha
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Old 07-22-2008, 10:29 AM #2 (permalink)  
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pots about $100 and we have $120 behind. i think you shud be betting more pre which helps flop c/b size then shoving turns is easy so you slightly badly structured your bet sizing imo.

i think a shove is too mcuh overkill and betting about $40 on turn then shove river is good and shud keep AK in.
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Old 07-22-2008, 12:12 PM #3 (permalink)  
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yeah we need to bet something here... like 40-50 should do, that makes it very hard for AK to get away
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Old 07-22-2008, 02:58 PM #4 (permalink)  
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 holy shit don't check go allin
 
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dude, why would i bet here? he's gonna stack off on river with any set and any good ace here has to be a bit scared in a 3bet pot with this board
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i think allin is overkill
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 I misread pot:stack but this is definitely a bet. He has tons of hands we wants to check back like pair+SD that won't call a river bet.
 
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I guess I was just being results oriented since i bet half pot and he folded.
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