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Love2Race
Old 05-25-2009, 01:40 AM     Post subject: Value from quads #1 (permalink)  
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This table has been playing TIGHT. I mean max security tight. I've been stealing blinds and firing when any scare card hits the board.
Full Tilt Pot-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

MP ($49.25)
CO ($54.80)
Button ($52.75)
Hero (SB) ($57.85)
BB ($50)
UTG ($30.90)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 3, 3
1 fold, MP calls $0.50, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.25, BB checks

Flop: ($1.50) 3, 4, 3 (3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, MP checks

Turn: ($1.50) 7 (3 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $1, 1 fold, Hero?

What to do, what to do? Should I call and let him see the river? Should I raise to build the pot? How do I extract max, if any, value from this?
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Old 05-25-2009, 08:29 AM #2 (permalink)  
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don't raise with the straight flush bro, nobody ever gonna call that shit
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Old 05-25-2009, 08:38 AM #3 (permalink)  
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I play differently, but I lead like 90% of limped pots anyway
so I would just lead the flop, mp seems like he's bad but you didn't give any reads on that particular player

but if people don't expect you to be spewing in limped pots checking is probably better mostly because nobody has anything
but definitely lead the turn
if you didn't, definitely raise it and pray he has a 7 he doesn't want to fold
but raise it small to like 2.5 so if he has pair + gutshot he's more tempted to call or just a backdoor flush draw

this is why leading is better because you rep way less strength that way
if you don't raise the turn you probably won't get ANY value unless an unlikely draw hits
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Old 05-25-2009, 08:39 AM #4 (permalink)  
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Old 05-26-2009, 12:16 AM #5 (permalink)  
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 flop seems like a dumb spot to lead, but for sure lead the turn.
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Old 05-26-2009, 04:26 AM #6 (permalink)  
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Leading the flop at this table was the worst play to make. Nobody was trying to make a hero play. If the turn was say a suited Q for sure I lead it but the 7 didnt seem that that great a card. BTW I did pop it to 2.50 but BB folded.

Is there a problem with the hand converter? This was a full ring table, all 9 players were dealt a hand.
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Old 05-26-2009, 04:47 AM #7 (permalink)  
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Leading the flop at this table was the worst play to make. Nobody was trying to make a hero play. If the turn was say a suited Q for sure I lead it but the 7 didnt seem that that great a card. BTW I did pop it to 2.50 but BB folded.

Is there a problem with the hand converter? This was a full ring table, all 9 players were dealt a hand.
just lead turn, people sometimes just call ace high
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Old 05-26-2009, 05:34 AM #8 (permalink)  
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I play differently, but I lead like 90% of limped pots anyway
so I would just lead the flop
This doesn't make any sense. If you can profitably lead 90% of limped pots it's because people are always folding when you lead so why would you want to lead when you actually have quads? If this lead were getting action from lots of hands then you should prob stop leading so many limped pots.
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Old 05-26-2009, 05:50 AM #9 (permalink)  
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I play differently, but I lead like 90% of limped pots anyway
so I would just lead the flop
This doesn't make any sense. If you can profitably lead 90% of limped pots it's because people are always folding when you lead so why would you want to lead when you actually have quads? If this lead were getting action from lots of hands then you should prob stop leading so many limped pots.
I probably should
but yeah some people adjust and start c/minraising me on the flop (which is super tilting since I never have anything)

so I guess I'll lead the flop against people who may be paying attention
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