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Miffed22001
Old 12-08-2007, 01:07 AM     Post subject: Value Overbet? #1 (permalink)  
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 Opp is a good 1/2 winner.
Ive been active, probably as high as 30/20 over about an hour (lots of hands+ playing good(for once)
I think he calls with a all his range he bet the turn with right because i have a fd...

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MP1 ($448.95)
MP2 ($418.10)
MP3 ($123.60)
CO ($203.45)
Button ($138.30)
SB ($197.70)
Hero ($200)
UTG ($196.75)
UTG+1 ($287.80)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 3, Q.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $2, MP1 calls $2, 1 fold, MP3 calls $2, 2 folds, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: ($10) 4, 7, J (5 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 bets $8, MP3 folds, SB calls $8, Hero calls $8, UTG+1 folds.

Turn: ($34) 6 (3 players)
SB bets $29, Hero calls $29, MP1 folds.

River: ($92) 5 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero shoves
(sb has $160 behind, pot is now $240)
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Old 12-08-2007, 02:19 AM #2 (permalink)  
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 No like. He doesn't even wanna call with a 3.
 
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Old 12-08-2007, 03:43 AM #3 (permalink)  
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 I think with 2pair he is only calling a max of $50 here.
 
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Old 12-08-2007, 07:03 AM #4 (permalink)  
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 this line always screams missed flush turned straight... honestly


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Old 12-08-2007, 07:19 AM #5 (permalink)  
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more info on opp please - need to put him on a range.
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Old 12-08-2007, 07:22 AM #6 (permalink)  
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 villains range is not THAT important considering what cards are on this board.


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Old 12-08-2007, 09:28 AM #7 (permalink)  
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 just throw out like 38 bucks

also bet flop

also fold turn mostly, unless you reaaly feel like you have good IO here.
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Old 12-08-2007, 10:03 AM #8 (permalink)  
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don't raise with the straight flush bro, nobody ever gonna call that shit
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Old 12-08-2007, 10:39 AM #9 (permalink)  
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Originally Posted by BankItDrew
villains range is not THAT important considering what cards are on this board.
I couldn't agree less!

OP is asking whether he should push the river with a non-nut hand. First thing I want to know is what is the likelihood that opp has the nuts!

A8 spades is a possible hand here so before considering a shove I am thinking:
1. Does he complete SB with AXs.
2. Does he bet turn with combo draw?
3. Is he capable of anticipating we will bet when checked to and going for a river check-raise with the nut hand?

His turn bet only really fits a narrow range of hands (assuming he is a good player) - so with a bit more specific info we can work out where we stand here and what the best play is.
tbh I am having a hard time believeing he would call a shove with 2 pair and finding it difficult to put him on a set given how the hand played out (hence need for info on opp) so can't see what he calls a big bet with here...
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Old 12-08-2007, 11:37 AM #10 (permalink)  
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just throw out like 38 bucks

also bet flop

also fold turn mostly, unless you reaaly feel like you have good IO here.
i felt i could bluff any 4 card straight falling plus obviously getting value on a flush, only reason i didnt fold turn.

Ive been fed up of betting and getting raised from out of the blinds so ive played much differently out of the blinds recently.
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