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Old 04-19-2008, 12:50 AM     Post subject: value bet vs value shove? #1 (permalink)  
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 Read is important here, I've seen villain min-raise - 4-bet push more than once - with QQ+ so I flat called pre
I wasn't going to raise while he was betting into me

I figure pushing the river looks bluffy, a value bet screams of strength and likely forces a fold.
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Button ($71)
SB ($15.80)
BB ($18.30)
UTG ($38.75)
UTG+1 ($256.15)
MP1 ($42.95)
Hero ($51.95)
MP3 ($50)
CO ($10)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with T, T.
UTG raises to $1, 2 folds, Hero calls $1, 2 folds, SB calls $0.75, BB calls $0.50.

Flop: ($4) T, T, 3 (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets $2.5, Hero calls $2.50, SB folds, BB folds.

Turn: ($9) 2 (3 players)
UTG bets $9, Hero calls $9.

River: ($27) 3 (3 players)
UTG bets $6.5, Hero raises to $39.45 (All-In),
don't raise with the straight flush bro, nobody ever gonna call that shit
allin, reload, repeat

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Old 04-19-2008, 06:05 AM #2 (permalink)  
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IDK for sure but if I'm in his shoes with QQ+ I'll call a raise to ~20 but fold to an all-in bet.
Maybe I'm wrong but I work on the assumption that on average bigger bet = bigger hand.
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Old 04-19-2008, 01:00 PM #3 (permalink)  
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 you dont really rep anything other than Tx and opps river bet looks scared so i doubt he calls
If he might call a minraise id do this otherwise meh perhaps he might call a shove once in a rainy day
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