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DoGGz
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06-11-2005, 05:14 AM
Post subject: UnderPair Vs moron
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How do you play this? This guy isn't very smart, but he runs the game with a small rake so he pretty much plays for free. He plays a lot of hands, but is more of a decent torny player, not a solid cash player.
Hero is in MP with $200.
moron is on the button with $340.
2$BB
Hero is delt  
UTG calls, Hero calls, MP2 calls, Moron raises to $12, SB BB UTG fold, Hero calls, MP2 folds
Flop:   
Hero checks, Moron bets $7, Hero raises to $20 Moron folds shows :Ad: :Kd:
I knew he either had high cards, or some PP. I was going to check fold, but his 7$ bet was just asking for me to take the pot. I also had tight image at the table and wanted to take down more pots.
I make this play because he's 50/50 to fold, and if he calls I still have outs to the boat, and a chance to win the pot on the turn.
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m3laNcholy
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Straight
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 232
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Nice play. With a better read maybe I would check call him all the way for more $$. Its risky cause if an A K or Q pops you have to lay it down. But I have done it several times and picked up a juicy pot also showing them that they cannot keep firing at a ragged board with overcards and expect me to fold.
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Straight
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 187
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One problem with the checkcalling line is that you are just asking to get blown out of the pot to a huge bet on the turn or river. I think the checkraise is a far preferable line because it represents a lot of strength on a flop where you are either way ahead or way behind, plus it gets the weak continuation bet when he folds. You can also get better hands than yours to fold: depending on the player and your image, as high as AA or definitely pockets lower than 10s. It would take a rare and ballsy player to reraise your 20 checkraise on an A high bluff, and usually you can spot those players with reads (or know your table image is wild enough that people will play back at you so strong and adjust accordingly). In my mind, checkcalling this flop is very weak, and if I have AK against you and I've been playing tight and generally making continuation bets (meaning it's more likely you'd call my bet on the flop, hoping I have exactly what I have with your middle-strength holding), or if I've seen you make some loose and questionable calls, I'm going to make a sizeable bet on the turn (3/4 pot) a good percentage of the time and you're going to want to vomit with your pocket threes.
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