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Old 08-27-2008, 12:08 AM     Post subject: Two value spots with KK #1 (permalink)  
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Hand 1.
Villain who cold calls 3bet is 14.5/11 over 700. Pushing is lol_trivial?

$2/$4 No Limit Holdem
8 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ChromeDreams ($621.90)
UTG+1 VOODOOM0NKEY ($407.30)
MP1 diamondfish3 ($407.10)
MP2 Yknot2 ($794.95)
CO pepinor ($446.80)
BTN Hero ($394.00)
SB John88888 ($390.00)
BB zeenith ($674.25)

Pre-flop: ($6, 8 players) Hero is BTN
3 folds, Yknot2 calls $4, pepinor bets $20, Hero bets $65, 1 fold, zeenith calls $61, Yknot2 folds, pepinor calls $45

Flop: ($201, 3 players)
zeenith checks, pepinor checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($201, 3 players)
zeenith bets $111, 1 fold, Hero goes all-in $329, zeenith calls $218

River: ($859, 2 players)

Final Pot: $859


hand 2.
Opp is 18/9. Have made a couple of notes that i think he isnt much for these stakes so i think his range is lots of AQ/KQ type hands and JT so i go for 3 streets of value as i think he catches enough on turn (converter is screwed up, i potted the turn btw)

$2/$4 No Limit Holdem
10 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ChromeDreams ($655.60)
UTG+1 VOODOOM0NKEY ($423.50)
UTG+2 Chipknecht ($279.45)
MP1 diamondfish3 ($387.20)
MP2 Yknot2 ($565.45)
MP3 pepinor ($399.80)
CO Hero ($442.00)
BTN Akilino ($439.00)
SB AlexBthe2nd ($378.50)
BB zeenith ($400.00)

Pre-flop: ($6, 10 players) Hero is CO
6 folds, Hero bets $12, 1 fold, AlexBthe2nd calls $10, 1 fold

Flop: ($28, 2 players)
AlexBthe2nd checks, Hero bets $21, AlexBthe2nd calls $21

Turn: ($70, 2 players)
AlexBthe2nd checks, Hero bets $45, AlexBthe2nd calls $45

River: ($160, 2 players)
AlexBthe2nd bets $90, Hero calls $90

Final Pot: $340
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Old 08-27-2008, 12:13 AM #2 (permalink)  
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First hand is good.. what is there to debate?

Second hand is kinda weird.. looks like air though.
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Old 08-27-2008, 01:14 AM #3 (permalink)  
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[quote="mxiu"]First hand is good.. what is there to debate?

Second hand is kinda weird.. im just calling the river imo.
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Old 08-27-2008, 01:32 AM #4 (permalink)  
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Old 08-27-2008, 01:36 AM #5 (permalink)  
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Hand 2 looks like AQ/KQ to me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBvge-c2_Xg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-Xz8aLuD7Y
 
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Old 08-27-2008, 02:46 AM #6 (permalink)  
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Old 08-27-2008, 03:31 AM #7 (permalink)  
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Old 08-27-2008, 03:35 AM #8 (permalink)  
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 I'm raising river in 2 all day
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I'm raising river in 2 all day
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Old 08-27-2008, 09:15 PM #10 (permalink)  
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I'm raising river in 2 all day
you agree a strong queen is a lot of his range and that he wants to stack with it?
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Old 08-28-2008, 01:47 AM #11 (permalink)  
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 Pretty much, quick question though, you said the converter screwed up, what was the pot-size on the river and villain's bet.
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 bets $90 on river into a pot size of $210, so less than half pot rather than just over
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[X] VALUE
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[ ] you are correct :P
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Old 08-28-2008, 07:20 AM #14 (permalink)  
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 my question to the people who just call the river in hand 2 is would you ever bluff-shove here with AJ/AK/JT
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my question to the people who just call the river in hand 2 is would you ever bluff-shove here with AJ/AK/JT
AK/JT/99 have to be shoved on this river, Kk is more marginal but should also IMO.
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[X] VALUE
[ ] VALUE
[ ] you are correct :P
OIC WAT U DID THERE LULZ
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[X] VALUE
[ ] VALUE
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OIC WAT U DID THERE LULZ
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