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Old 08-20-2006, 06:19 PM     Post subject: Two top pair line checks for review. #1 (permalink)  
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Hand 1

Both players are unknown

PokerRoom No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (10 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

SB ($14.75)
BB ($13.60)
UTG ($31.75)
UTG+1 ($38.60)
UTG+2 ($26.95)
MP1 ($19.60)
MP2 ($9.00)
Hero ($24.60)
CO ($27.85)
Button ($12.60)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A, K.
UTG calls $0.25, 1 fold, UTG+2 calls $0.25, 1 fold, MP2 checks, Hero raises to $2, 4 folds, UTG calls $1.75, UTG+2 folds, MP2 calls $1.75.

Flop: ($6.90) T, A, 7 (3 players)
UTG bets $2, MP2 calls $2, Hero raises to $10, UTG calls $8, MP2 calls $5 (All-In).

Turn: ($33.90) 5 (3 players, 1 all-in)
UTG bets $19.75 (All-In), Hero calls $12.60 (All-In).

River: ($66.25) T (3 players, 3 all-in)

Final Pot: $66.25

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Hand 2

Villain is 35/6/1

Hand history converter crapped out on me midway through post. Sorry.

Texas Hold'em $0.25-$0.50 NL (real money), hand #878,794,516
Table Acapulco, 20 Aug 2006 12:31 PM ET

Seat 1: jonnyblaze11 ($10.00 in chips)
Seat 2: psychoturtle ($15.75 in chips)
Seat 3: Admerylous ($32.15 in chips)
Seat 4: Drelda ($16.50 in chips)
Seat 5: Bsilent1 ($28.10 in chips)
Seat 6: x.Tankgirl.x ($24.75 in chips)
Seat 7: yourbumfluff ($11.00 in chips)
Seat 8: freechus8 [ QC,KS ] ($59.20 in chips)
Seat 9: chatzo ($6.30 in chips)
Seat 10: djbreese2000 ($21.50 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
Admerylous posts blind ($0.15), Drelda posts blind ($0.25), chatzo posts blind ($0.25), jonnyblaze11 posts blind ($0.25).

PRE-FLOP
Bsilent1 folds, x.Tankgirl.x folds, yourbumfluff calls $0.25, freechus8 calls $0.25, chatzo checks, djbreese2000 folds, jonnyblaze11 checks, psychoturtle calls $0.25, Admerylous folds, Drelda checks.

FLOP [board cards 9S,5C,QH ]
Drelda checks, yourbumfluff checks, freechus8 bets $1, chatzo folds, jonnyblaze11 folds, psychoturtle calls $1, Drelda folds, yourbumfluff folds.

TURN [board cards 9S,5C,QH,7H ]
freechus8 bets $2, psychoturtle calls $2.

RIVER [board cards 9S,5C,QH,7H,9D ]
freechus8 bets $4, psychoturtle bets $12.50 and is all-in, freechus8 folds.

SHOWDOWN
psychoturtle wins $23.65.
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Old 08-20-2006, 06:21 PM #2 (permalink)  
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In Hand 2, I know that if I raised, I would be in a much better position to win the hand. But as played, do you like the river fold?
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Old 08-20-2006, 06:49 PM #3 (permalink)  
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Hand 1, this is pretty tricky. It sure looks like a fishy line from villian...maybe along the lines of AT/A7/77.....practically a min bet on the flop looking for action and smooth calls the large raise....do you really think he is drawing here with 89?...probably not.

And then he comes to life and open pushes on the turn?...I wouldnt want to lay it down either, but against an unknown I think you have to lay it down here, sure looks like your beat, and then you cry and run home when he shows AJ.

Hand 2, I dont like limping here....I think you gotta raise here.....looks good to me otherwise.
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Old 08-20-2006, 07:10 PM #4 (permalink)  
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I'm getting 4:1 on the turn in hand 1 though. On a non scary board don't I have to call? The only hand that beats me here is a set/2 pair. No draws completed.
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Old 08-20-2006, 07:41 PM #5 (permalink)  
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I'm getting 4:1 on the turn in hand 1 though. On a non scary board don't I have to call? The only hand that beats me here is a set/2 pair. No draws completed.
Well, maybe, im not sure there, but whos betting like that which doesnt beat you?
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Old 08-20-2006, 08:34 PM #6 (permalink)  
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I think 1 is ok...it is a wa/wb but at this stake the hands you are wa of will sometimes call the flop raise and open push the turn. also, you are basically heads up as the short stack doesn't really count. imo you generally get more value by calling the flop and reevaluating the turn though.

#2 - I probably bet less on the river, but think the fold is ok, depends if you've seen him do this too much though.
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Old 08-21-2006, 02:52 AM     Post subject: Re: Two top pair line checks for review. #7 (permalink)  
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Hand 1: You've shown extreme strength and he's still there. He doin this with AQ? I fold and watch the showdown and use that info to extract money from him later.

Hand 2: Raise PF if you're gonna play KQo from MP, rest is fine. You're not trapping anyone with a hand that's most often TPGK when it hits.
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