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Old 02-17-2006, 06:04 PM     Post subject: Two more HH's I need critiqued #1 (permalink)  
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Here are two more HH's I need critiqued. These two and the one I posted on the other thread are the three I lost on that I wasnt happy with. Tell me where I went wrong.

1) Party Poker Pot-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

UTG+1 ($1.95)
UTG+2 ($0)
MP1 ($111.03)
MP2 ($13.55)
MP3 ($1.55)
Hero ($33.60)
Button ($46.60)
SB ($4.75)
BB ($15)
UTG ($8.89)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K, A. SB posts a blind of $0.10.
2 folds, MP1 raises to $0.5, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.50, Button calls $0.50, 2 folds.

Flop: ($1.85) K, 5, 7 (4 players)
MP1 bets $0.75, Hero raises to $2, Button folds, MP1 calls $1.25.

Turn: ($5.85) A (3 players)
MP1 bets $1, Hero raises to $3, MP1 calls $2.

River: ($11.85) 7 (3 players)
MP1 bets $5, Hero calls $5.

Final Pot: $21.85
Results in white
Hero's two pair A's K's lose to Full house 7's over A's



2)Party Poker Pot-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

MP3 ($1.60)
CO ($30.10)
Button ($109.23)
SB ($16.20)
BB ($1.55)
Hero ($23.10)
UTG+1 ($46.10)
UTG+2 ($6.60)
MP1 ($14.65)
MP2 ($10.49)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A, A. SB posts a blind of $0.10.
Hero raises to $0.5, 6 folds, Button raises to $1.85, 2 folds, Hero raises to $5.9, Button calls $4.05.

Flop: ($12.15) K, 4, K (2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks.

Turn: ($12.15) J (2 players)
Hero bets $0.25, Button calls $0.25.

River: ($12.65) 3 (2 players)
Hero bets $1, Button raises to $2, Hero calls $1.

Final Pot: $16.65Results in white

Hero's two pair A's K's lose to Ace high flush. Here I see I lost this on the turn bet. But this guy was very loose and chased most everything. Same guy in both HH's. So I think even if I threw out a $3-$4 turn bet he probably would have chased for the flush anyhow. Especially with his stack size.
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Old 02-17-2006, 06:59 PM #2 (permalink)  
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1. Fine. He hit runner runner, you made him pay to get there. I think it's -EV to fold top 2 to that river bet especially give your read on villan.

2. Again he hit runner runner BUT - Awful post-flop play. You basically announced a huge hand pre-flop. I think you have to follow up on the flop with a feeler bet once again projecting strength. KK is unlikely, AK is the only hand to really fear. I would put him on a PP lower than AA. So bet out and see how he reacts or check and see what he does, I prefer betting. Turn BET BET BET. You have to bet a respectable amount relative to the pot. ANY hand can call a $.25 bet- it accomplished nothing.

You have to keep the pressure on the bad guy. You took the initative pre-flop and then just handed it away post-flop.

Every not and then you will get unlucky and run into AK or KQ there, but if you don't bet out you'll never know. For example, you bet out 1/2 the pot there on the flop, you are putting pressure on him. If he flat calls, THEN you can think of slowing it down.
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Old 02-17-2006, 07:18 PM #3 (permalink)  
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1. Fine. He hit runner runner, you made him pay to get there. I think it's -EV to fold top 2 to that river bet especially give your read on villan.

2. Again he hit runner runner BUT - Awful post-flop play. You basically announced a huge hand pre-flop. I think you have to follow up on the flop with a feeler bet once again projecting strength. KK is unlikely, AK is the only hand to really fear. I would put him on a PP lower than AA. So bet out and see how he reacts or check and see what he does, I prefer betting. Turn BET BET BET. You have to bet a respectable amount relative to the pot. ANY hand can call a $.25 bet- it accomplished nothing.

You have to keep the pressure on the bad guy. You took the initative pre-flop and then just handed it away post-flop.

Every not and then you will get unlucky and run into AK or KQ there, but if you don't bet out you'll never know. For example, you bet out 1/2 the pot there on the flop, you are putting pressure on him. If he flat calls, THEN you can think of slowing it down.
Even though he proved in hand one that he's willing to chase. I mean he called a $4 raise pre-flop with just an A7, yeah granted they were suited, but does that justify a call of $4 raise at 25NL?

And I totally agree. My flop and turn bet were PATHETIC. I should have at least put a $3 bet on the turn (enough, or not enough?) And then again on the river. When he checked the flop I should have tried to take the hand right then. I'm totally to blame for that hand.
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Old 02-17-2006, 07:44 PM #4 (permalink)  
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Hand One: Raise preflop

Hand Two: 2/3s pot the flop.


Maybe wouldn't have changed the outcome too much but you can never be too sure.
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Old 02-17-2006, 10:01 PM #5 (permalink)  
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Hand 1: Raise pre-flop, see what he thinks of his hand.
Hand 2: Funny spot. From an exploitation perspective, I like your post-flop play.
 
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