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Strung
Old 07-23-2006, 05:42 AM     Post subject: Two hands for evaluation #1 (permalink)  
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No reads on either villian, Hud only has about 30 hands on each.

Hand #1:
Should I of folded the river?

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MP2 ($110.85)
MP3 ($99)
CO ($371.66)
Hero ($98.50)
SB ($40.45)
BB ($109.85)
UTG ($130.65)
UTG+1 ($25.80)
MP1 ($99)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A, 7. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
6 folds, Hero raises to $3, 1 fold, BB calls $2.

Flop: ($6.50) 7, 9, A (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $4, BB calls $4.

Turn: ($14.50) J (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $9, BB raises to $27, Hero calls $18.

River: ($68.50) 3 (2 players)
BB bets $65, Hero calls $64.50 (All-In).

Final Pot: $198


Hand #2
This may look straight forward but do you worry about quads ever? If so do you just pay it off anyways? What about the flat call on the flop?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

CO ($25.50)
Hero ($131.45)
SB ($117.82)
BB ($77.56)
UTG ($209.45)
UTG+1 ($100)
MP1 ($278.43)
MP2 ($85.60)

Preflop: Hero is Button with T, A. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
UTG calls $1, 1 fold, MP1 calls $1, 1 fold, Hero calls $1, 1 fold, BB checks.

Flop: ($4.50) T, 3, A (5 players)
BB checks, UTG bets $3, MP1 calls $3, Hero calls $3, BB folds.

Turn: ($13.50) A (4 players)
UTG checks, MP1 checks, Hero checks.

River: ($13.50) 3 (4 players)
UTG bets $20, MP1 folds, Hero raises to $40, UTG raises to $80, Hero raises to $120, UTG raises to $160, Hero calls $7.44 (All-In).

Final Pot: $300.95
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Old 07-23-2006, 08:31 AM #2 (permalink)  
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1) Tough hand. If I'm playing well I think I find a fold here. The huge turn raise is a big red flag.

2) Get your money in before he rivers quads.
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Old 07-23-2006, 09:21 AM #3 (permalink)  
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1) I'd be temted to do the same here, but who would raise me that I have beat? Probably a set. A typical line is a raise after the turn. He knows I have the Ace, so the least he has is also two pair with a better second pair. He could have 8 10 aswell for the straight (even though calling a raise with it is certainly questionable, unless its an obvous steal). Let it go.

2) I push it in and if he has quads: lucky bastard. Never ever care about quads in this situation, pay them off every time. Only Situation I would possibly give someone credit for quads is if there are three of a kind on the board and I am holding a pp or hit a fourth card. This would be a weak boat that I woud consider folding to aggression.

I would have bet the turn aswell, but if two poeple hit at least a boat, the money is going to go in no matter what, no use talking about the best line. If he was to talk about how he trapped you with his quads, he did'nt, you just played your hand. If you had quads, every sane player would have donated his stack to you in the reverse situation. Sometimes a great hand looses...
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