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andmunn

07-19-2007, 03:16 AM Post subject: Turn top two pair - facing turn mini-raise...

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Hand #44558939-736 at Revere (No Limit Hold'em)
Started at 18/Jul/07 23:12:31

qbler is at seat 0 with $128.
eightKrpm is at seat 1 with $47.55.
bigdawg7887 is at seat 2 with $48.25.
Muppet Style is at seat 3 with $125.50.
CutBait777 is at seat 4 with $52.35.
NTT is at seat 5 with $50.
dddbearcat is at seat 6 with $14.
HERO is at seat 7 with $50.
j-philli is at seat 8 with $77.05.
pacmann31 is at seat 9 with $15.
The button is at seat 2.

Muppet Style posts the small blind of $.25.
CutBait777 posts the big blind of $.50.
(NTT did not post OT, is sitting out.)

qbler: -- --
eightKrpm: -- --
bigdawg7887: -- --
Muppet Style: -- --
CutBait777: -- --
dddbearcat: -- --
HERO: 8h Ah
j-philli: -- --

Pre-flop:

dddbearcat calls. HERO calls. j-philli calls.
qbler folds. eightKrpm folds. bigdawg7887 folds.
Muppet Style folds. CutBait777 checks.

Flop (board: 7h 8d 5c):

CutBait777 checks. dddbearcat checks. HERO bets
$2.25. j-philli calls. CutBait777 folds.
dddbearcat folds.

Turn (board: 7h 8d 5c As):

HERO bets $6.75. j-philli raises to $15.

What do i do?

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Pants_101

07-19-2007, 12:16 PM

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First thing is that villain is taking a strong line here. He MAY be calling the flop because he has a strong hand and wants the others to come along. Then he raises the turn because he wants to build the pot. In that case he has a set or he flopped an unlikely str8. He could also have 78 although he might raise to protect that hand. The other possibily is he has a strong draw like 67.

The ace on the turn seems unlikely to have helped him, if he had a strong ace he should have raised pf and his flop call was loose. So is he still drawing and using position to bet what might be a scare card? Or is he just strong and raising regardless... You're out of position and guessing so I would fold. Be good to hear better player's thoughts though.

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BankItDrew

07-20-2007, 06:13 AM

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Are you thinking of folding to this raise? Of course not! So let's prepare for the worst case scenerio against a weaker hand:

His hand is 67. = 10 outs. = 20% to win. So, let's raise more than 20% of his potential profit.

Pot is $28.50 @ the time of his raise.Villain has $60 behind. His potential profit = $28+60 = $88. 20% of this is $18. So raise AT LEAST another $18.... say to $35.

If villain has a better hand than our top two pair, we have 9% to win and say nh. If villain puts anymore $ into the pot, he's fucking up and putting you through college.

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