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Miffed22001
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08-24-2009, 10:03 PM
Post subject: Turn Hidden Trips vs River raise
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Straight Flush
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Opp is unknown Russian
I think my hand strength relative to his river raise range is very weak - Trip Tens = AA (or the vast majority of my UTG range) here so im smoked like always right?
therefore - do i bet/fold river or check/call or even check/fold as he checks behind worse hands...?
No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (8 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
Button ($133.90)
SB ($38.25)
BB ($58)
Hero (UTG) ($100)
UTG+1 ($20)
MP1 ($112.25)
MP2 ($52.50)
CO ($36.70)
Preflop: Hero is UTG with A , 10
Hero bets $4, 1 fold, MP1 calls $4, 5 folds
Flop: ($9.50) 4 , 8 , 10 (2 players)
Hero bets $7, MP1 calls $7
Turn: ($23.50) 10 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets $14, Hero calls $14
River: ($51.50) 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $17, MP1 raises $40, Hero calls $23
Total pot: $131.50
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Muzzard
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Is AT always in ur UTG range? Seems like a leak if so.
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AFchung
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pretty sure its a fold preflop ;x
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BankItDrew
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You played the flop well.
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crai the turn imo
preflop is fine wtf.
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daven
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pre-flop and ATs is a rarely but sometimes hand
Flop is good
Bet-fold turn
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Originally Posted by AFchung
pretty sure its a fold preflop ;x
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yeah I know we get 3b bluffed a lot and when we make top pair we sure get stacked by sets!
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pokerfan
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i INSTA muck ATs from UTG but sometimes mix things up a little bit
i like b/f on the turn.
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Miffed22001
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preflop is probably the least interesting street...
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some people's ranges are wider and it depends on the table and blah blah blah, you definitely can't blanket state that raising ATs utg is a leak.
I'd probably bet/bet/bet, he'll call down with worse a lot.
I don't really like the river bet, is it a block or an induce? I'd prefer $20-26/fold, or check/call unless he bets huge in which case check/fold.
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Miffed22001
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Originally Posted by TwoSmeets
some people's ranges are wider and it depends on the table and blah blah blah, you definitely can't blanket state that raising ATs utg is a leak.
I'd probably bet/bet/bet, he'll call down with worse a lot.
I don't really like the river bet, is it a block or an induce? I'd prefer $20-26/fold, or check/call unless he bets huge in which case check/fold.
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his turn bet size made me think he had QQ+ which is why i bet/call hoping he would put me on a weakish hand. Pretty solidly thought he had AA here.
Im interested in those who think that a turn c/r is the best move - when im UTG and repping that type of range what worse hands call?
TTT = AA here in terms of relative hand strength
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Miffed22001
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Originally Posted by TwoSmeets
some people's ranges are wider and it depends on the table and blah blah blah, you definitely can't blanket state that raising ATs utg is a leak.
I'd probably bet/bet/bet, he'll call down with worse a lot.
I don't really like the river bet, is it a block or an induce? I'd prefer $20-26/fold, or check/call unless he bets huge in which case check/fold.
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his turn bet size made me think he had QQ+ which is why i bet/call hoping he would put me on a weakish hand. Pretty solidly thought he had AA here.
Im interested in those who think that a turn c/r is the best move - when im UTG and repping that type of range what worse hands call?
TTT = AA here in terms of relative hand strength
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it's 50nl people are dumb, hes russian which makes me think he could be dumber than the usual 50nler, 50nl people will call it off with an overpair and a diamond or like KK and AA with no diamond because they have 0 concept of relative hand strength
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Deanglow
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preflop is whatever, i don't think it is a big mistake if it is one.
Betbetbet and think hard when raised
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Deanglow
preflop is whatever, i don't think it is a big mistake if it is one.
Betbetbet and think hard when raised
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This
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