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Old 06-09-2008, 06:12 AM     Post subject: TT button raise, re-raise donk lead - standard? 50nl #1 (permalink)  
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 opp seems fairly normal. I probably have an ok image
completely standard?

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BB ($57.40)
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Preflop: Hero is Button with T, T.
2 folds, MP1 calls $0.50, 3 folds, Hero raises to $2.25, 1 fold, BB calls $1.75, MP1 calls $1.75.

Flop: ($7) K, A, 8 (3 players)
BB bets $3, MP1 folds, Hero raises to $8
don't raise with the straight flush bro, nobody ever gonna call that shit
allin, reload, repeat

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Old 06-09-2008, 06:15 AM #2 (permalink)  
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$12

Folding is fine too.
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 i used to do this type of thing a lot, but now i fold most of the time. my wr is better now than it used to be, but i also simultaneously made a few other changes so i dunno if this is part of why. i think it is tho.
 
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Very opponent driven. How often are they bet/folding one pair or air here? Unfortunatly club draws probably aren't folding, but at least if you put them to a big test they might.

I think the key to making this work is putting them to a test on the spot and not feeding them small raises/bets.

In the live game I play, the frequency they'll fold + show an Ace or King rag here is comical.

Against tighter opponents for less real money this move is probably a loser.
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 people dont like to donk/fold. but i like this better with TT since we can show down and beat a fd. he can do this with both a king and ace, will fold king more often but not too often. since its multipot i just lay it down. when raising, making it big is def best since a king isn't folding to a small raise, but is more likely to a big one while a fd is never folding unless raise is ginormous.

small raise is almost pointless. only value is vs a retarded underpair or a draw that is more likely to bluff after a whiff since we look so weak
 
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people dont like to donk/fold.
Like I said, opponent dependent and probably less likely to get a fold with lots of money behind but more likely to work if calling your raise leaves just around pot behind.

Even if it's slightly -EV, it's probably good poker to do this once in a while to prevent cheap bets to steal the pot and/or define your hand.
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$1/$2 No Limit Holdem
4 players
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Stacks:
CO Hero ($200.00)
BTN misterkoen3 ($247.30)
SB romjohn ($201.60)
BB Don Funghi ($45.15)

Pre-flop: ($3, 4 players) Hero is CO
Hero raises to $6, misterkoen3 calls $6, romjohn calls $5, 1 fold

Flop: ($20, 3 players)
romjohn bets $6, Hero raises to $25

$1/$2 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG louis984 ($154.55)
UTG+1 jan19x ($226.10)
CO dbalaban ($48.95)
BTN sfr100nrv ($64.20)
SB Dejgaard ($168.00)
BB Hero ($298.70)

Pre-flop: ($3, 6 players) Hero is BB
4 folds, Dejgaard raises to $6, Hero raises to $20, Dejgaard calls $14

Flop: ($40, 2 players)
Dejgaard bets $16, Hero raises to $45

$1/$2 No Limit Holdem
5 players
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Stacks:
UTG Hero ($352.40)
CO howzatt10 ($207.35)
BTN Thomsgen ($281.05)
SB NLKat ($69.35)
BB priyanta ($139.70)

Pre-flop: ($3, 5 players) Hero is UTG
Hero raises to $6, 2 folds, NLKat calls $5, 1 fold

Flop: ($14, 2 players)
NLKat bets $6, Hero raises to $20

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6 players
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Stacks:
UTG DangVanSung ($37.75)
UTG+1 simsobst ($103.95)
CO luckydave23 ($60.00)
BTN Hero ($206.25)
SB xxkalixx ($58.00)
BB sfr100nrv ($49.60)
[luckydave23 posted $2]

Pre-flop: ($5, 6 players) Hero is BTN
DangVanSung calls $2, simsobst calls $2, luckydave23 checks, Hero raises to $12, 2 folds, DangVanSung folds, simsobst calls $10, luckydave23 folds

Flop: ($31, 2 players)
simsobst bets $10, Hero raises to $35

Yeah, pretty much most of these hands I had overs and the pot was Heads-up against a weak/loose player.
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