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Old 03-22-2007, 01:49 PM     Post subject: tricky spot with KQ #1 (permalink)  
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Villian in the SB has been at the table for about an orbit and has played a few little pots not showing down any hands. I'm not sure why I called the turn, I knew I was folding the river to the push. What do you think, JT or bad fold?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

MP2 ($15)
MP3 ($35.25)
CO ($10)
Button ($23.30)
SB ($33.30)
BB ($29.80)
UTG ($25)
UTG+1 ($15)
Hero ($30.50)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K, Q. UTG+1 posts a blind of $0.25.
1 fold, UTG+1 (poster) checks, Hero calls $0.25, MP2 calls $0.25, MP3 calls $0.25, CO calls $0.25, 1 fold, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($1.75) 6, Q, K (7 players)
SB bets $1, BB folds, UTG+1 folds, Hero raises to $5, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO folds, SB calls $4.

Turn: ($11.75) 9 (2 players)
SB bets $6, Hero calls $6.

River: ($23.75) 5 (2 players)
SB bets $22.05 (All-In), Hero folds.

Final Pot: $45.80
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Old 03-22-2007, 02:38 PM #2 (permalink)  
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 Looks like AK to me.

possible missed flush draw suppose. I wouldn't fold my 2 pair there....
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 AK isnt limping behind here unless he is incredibly passive, so i dont think its a terrible fold.
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I don't think AK or AQ he would of raised.... I reall don't see how he calls the flop with JT either......perhaps a set of 6's but I think he would of reraised you on the flop tough call here I think.....It could of just been that he missed his nut flush draw with the clubs and had a rag suited Ace....since you had no reason to think he was bluffing I would say good lay down
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I don't think AK or AQ he would of raised.... I reall don't see how he calls the flop with JT either......perhaps a set of 6's but I think he would of reraised you on the flop tough call here I think.....It could of just been that he missed his nut flush draw with the clubs and had a rag suited Ace....since you had no reason to think he was bluffing I would say good lay down
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I don't think AK or AQ he would of raised.... I reall don't see how he calls the flop with JT either......perhaps a set of 6's but I think he would of reraised you on the flop tough call here I think.....It could of just been that he missed his nut flush draw with the clubs and had a rag suited Ace....since you had no reason to think he was bluffing I would say good lay down
id say about 95% of players online call with JT on the flop. and about 95% of players online have no problem slow playing sets with draws. you are giving villains way too much credit in ur hand reading, especially for 25nl. but definitely the right laydown
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The only possible thing I could think of was JT or 66, but why wouldn't he reraise the flop with a set? He limped with 5 callers infront so I can't see him having a big hand. If he had a flush draw why bet $6 into me on the turn?

The only hand I can see him having that I beat would be K9 or something, unless he's crazy and I just don't know it.
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Old 03-22-2007, 05:50 PM #8 (permalink)  
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Raising preflop makes this hand a lot easier to play.

I'm confused about his turn lead, kindof looks like he wants you to raise, or for you to not check behind.

River looks like a tough fold, although I dont know if I would playing the hand.
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The only possible thing I could think of was JT or 66, but why wouldn't he reraise the flop with a set? He limped with 5 callers infront so I can't see him having a big hand. If he had a flush draw why bet $6 into me on the turn?
well, he doesnt have to reraise the flop with a set because its heads up and your raise looks exactly like what it is, 2 pair, doesnt look like much of a draw. and if he has a draw whats wrong with betting $6 on the turn? hes giving himself better odds than what he thinks you would give him
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I probably fold, but his Turn lead and river push makes me think you are beat. It's possible its J10, but that's an awful lot of money to put into an OESD. It could just as easily be K6 or Q6, maybe K9, but those are the only hands you beat. I probably puke and fold too thinking he likely has J10 or 66.
No, it's not AQ or AK, that is silly. Considering your re-raise after his flop raise, it could be a set and he wants to mask his hand by betting the Turn and expecting a Re-raise from you.

I really think you need to raise PF. KQs is a great hand, bump that 3x-4x the bb.
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