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dsaxton
Old 10-04-2005, 06:37 PM     Post subject: Trap play. #1 (permalink)  
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This guy made a strong preflop raise that essentially defined his hand before the flop, which I think was a big mistake (it also told me he was probably an inexperienced player, since experienced players generally don't raise according to the strength of their hands). Since I figured he probably had 10-10, J-J, Q-Q or A-A and would most likely overvalue an overpair after the flop, I opted not to reraise from the button and announce the strength of my hand, and hoped that rags would fall so I could trap him (and of course double him up if he had A-A, but it was more likely he had a pair other than A-A anyways). It worked out pretty nicely:

PokerStars Game #2725325673: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2005/10/04 - 14:19:25 (ET)
Table 'Bruchsalia' Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: tbthanx ($192.75 in chips)
Seat 2: FishyWhale ($252.20 in chips)
Seat 3: Ferghus ($171.75 in chips)
Seat 4: mscdman ($180.75 in chips)
Seat 5: luisfran ($121.20 in chips)
Seat 6: KmoneyLL2k3 ($170 in chips)
Seat 7: dsaxton ($276.55 in chips)
Seat 8: blessed44 ($209.25 in chips)
Seat 9: Tyson Lee ($100.40 in chips)
blessed44: posts small blind $1
Tyson Lee: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to dsaxton [Kh Kc]
tbthanx: calls $2
FishyWhale: folds
Ferghus: folds
Ferghus leaves the table
mscdman: raises $8 to $10
luisfran: folds
KmoneyLL2k3: folds
dsaxton: calls $10
cruxis joins the table at seat #3
blessed44: folds
Tyson Lee: folds
tbthanx: folds
*** FLOP *** [8c 6h 9s]
mscdman: bets $20
dsaxton: raises $20 to $40
mscdman: raises $130.75 to $170.75 and is all-in
dsaxton: calls $130.75
*** TURN *** [8c 6h 9s] [Tc]
*** RIVER *** [8c 6h 9s Tc] [6s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
mscdman: shows [Jh Jc] (two pair, Jacks and Sixes)
dsaxton: shows [Kh Kc] (two pair, Kings and Sixes)
dsaxton collected $363.50 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $366.50 | Rake $3
Board [8c 6h 9s Tc 6s]
Seat 1: tbthanx folded before Flop
Seat 2: FishyWhale folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Ferghus folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: mscdman showed [Jh Jc] and lost with two pair, Jacks and Sixes
Seat 5: luisfran folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: KmoneyLL2k3 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: dsaxton (button) showed [Kh Kc] and won ($363.50) with two pair, Kings and Sixes
Seat 8: blessed44 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: Tyson Lee (big blind) folded before Flop
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Zangief
Old 10-04-2005, 06:59 PM     Post subject: Re: Trap play. #2 (permalink)  
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Originally Posted by dsaxton
This guy made a strong preflop raise that essentially defined his hand before the flop

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tbthanx: calls $2
mscdman: raises $8 to $10
Was just the fact that he raised to 5xBB enough to put him on this hand, or had you seen him showdown some other hands, so you knew he raised less with, say, AK/AQ?

Nice trap.
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Old 10-04-2005, 07:06 PM     Post subject: Re: Trap play. #3 (permalink)  
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Originally Posted by Zangief
Was just the fact that he raised to 5xBB enough to put him on this hand, or had you seen him showdown some other hands, so you knew he raised less with, say, AK/AQ?

Nice trap.
Not really, it's just a general tendency I've noticed among players who vary the size of their preflop raises. When players do this, it's generally based on the strength of their holdings. A large preflop raise with only one limper very often means a high pair, and also that the player probably isn't very experienced, which suggests to me he's likely to overvalue his hand after the flop.

I was multi-tabling and hadn't paid special attention to this guy. I was just sort of thinking in terms of the "random opponent" model you use whenever you lack specific reads.
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